Little help plese?

[MidnightIris]

Hello all! Sorry for posting this without a picture, but my camera is not of the working variety! Anyway, I have a male corn sold to me as a baby as an okeetee, but he's definatly not. In fact, I think he may be a carmel corn as he has no red on his body and a lot of yellow. I've compared him to a few pictues of carmels online and in books, but I still am not sure of what I have. If anybody can post a pic of a carmel or in any ay hel me out, I'm be oh so appreciative. I really didn't care that much in the past, but I'm hoping to breed him to my female amel in the spring and I'd like to know whether to look for butters! (P.S. I'll try to get a pic ASAP!)

[josefg]

If you breed a caramel corn to an amelanistic corn, you will not get any butters unless your caramel is het for amelanistic or your amelanistic is het for caramel. The result of a caramel x amelanistic breeding will be all normals but 100% double het for caramel and amelanisic (i.e. 100% het for butter).

As for the pics, sorry but i don't have any! :(

Hope this helps!

[MidnightIris]

Wait, is it that if I breed an amel het for carmel to a carmel het for amel that there's a 1 in 16 chance for a buttter baby? Or is it if I breed two normals both het for butter? Gah, should have paid better attention in biology! But I have no idea WHAT my corns are het for...I'm expecting either all normals or corn soup!

[Lisa]

you can find pics at http://www.cornsnake.net/

and here's a program that does the work for ya

http://home.epix.net/~nspencer/cornprog.html

[josefg]

If an amel het for caramel to a caramel het for amel, you have a 1 on 4 (25%) chance of getting a butter not 1 on 16.

Good luck in breeding your corns!

[Simon]

here's a little picture of my caramel het amber

He's only a little hatchling....
<img src="http://www.printroom.com/_vti_bin/ViewImage.dll?userid=Candycanecorn&album_id=96028&image_id=100&courtesy=1">

I just found out that I don't have any photos of normals.......or that I have sold all the normals already....it would be better to have a normal okeetee photo so that you can compare and identify your snake.....if you can try and take some pics and post it up so that we all can help you identify

Good Luck and Happy Herping!

[Simon]

LOL...

just to make you hate me.....since you seem to want butters so much.....(cause I love these butter motleys~)

here are 3 photos of my butter motleys (I have posted these before)

Female 1
<img src="http://www.printroom.com/_vti_bin/ViewImage.dll?userid=Candycanecorn&album_id=96028&image_id=88&courtesy=1">

Female 2
<img src="http://www.printroom.com/_vti_bin/ViewImage.dll?userid=Candycanecorn&album_id=96028&image_id=89&courtesy=1">

Male 1
<img src="http://www.printroom.com/_vti_bin/ViewImage.dll?userid=Candycanecorn&album_id=96028&image_id=90&courtesy=1">

Don't you just love these little babies?

[AaliahReed]

Yeah , they are unreal,!!!!!!!!

[josefg]

:jawdrop: Simon, those are awesome corns....

[Matt]

great butter mots simon!!!

[MidnightIris]

**drools on screen** Such pretty little snakes...but yeah, my male nver looked anything like the carmel up there...but then I got him at about 6 months old so he had already devloped some yellow. I've seen pics of okeetees and I KNOW he's not that...not a drop of red on him, and very little black. Actually, he looks a lot like this (pic from the book "The Corn Snake Manual") But he's not Motley, and has a little black...

But my goals of pretty things to own in the future are a blood red, a hurricane snow and a butter.

[Simon]

if your corn looks around like my caramel or this one that you posted then it's definately a caramel corn.

Caramels start like a darker normal corn snake at birth but then once they get to adulthood, they glow~~~~ and that picture you have there is a caramel motley~~ something that I would really like...(I was going to get it....but then no money~~)