Feeding EGGS to BP [Archive] - sSNAKESs : Reptile Forum

monster

07-21-05, 02:18 PM

Holy crap. Calm down people, it's not like i'm force feeding the snake. He doesn't want the egg so he didn't eat it! You guys are all getting so hyped up for no reason. The damage is done, it's too late now. NO damage that is. Gave my bp a mouse and he's as healthy as can be. END of story.

mcfreshdeli

07-21-05, 02:43 PM

um i highly doubt that your snake will eat eggs. bp dont eat eggs in the wild. there are species of colubrids that eat eggs though. but that is a completely different species. if it does eat i want to see pivs though

mykee

07-21-05, 05:00 PM

Good idea, but I think you should scramble it up with some bacon and mushrooms first. Paprika and salt too, balls LOVE seasonings...

NewLineReptile

07-21-05, 05:20 PM

Good idea, but I think you should scramble it up with some bacon and mushrooms first. Paprika and salt too, balls LOVE seasonings...

LMAO!!!!!

B.

peterm15

07-21-05, 05:28 PM

LMAO..

i dont think an egg for a ball is a good idea.. may cause more harm than good

Jeff_Favelle

07-21-05, 06:07 PM

Edmond Y

07-21-05, 06:42 PM

If you ask just for fun is fine. I have tried to fool our mother nature by feed my first baby corn with geckos. It didn't work out and the baby corn was scared. It took me for more than four months to get her back to eat pinkie. At least eggs won't jump to scare your snake.
Edmond

CARLiTO_

07-21-05, 06:44 PM

alanhoo

07-21-05, 10:35 PM

BP eating egg is funny and the picture is even funnier.

monster

07-22-05, 03:32 AM

How about a nice Western Omlette? Or maybe some eggs benny?

Too funny.... "Snakes eat eggs in the wild". Yeah? Which ones? I can think of ONE, and its name is the African Egg Eating Snake!

BP's DON'T EAT EGGS!

You think you're so smart, the African egg eating snake is the only snake which feeds EXCLUSIVELY on eggs. There are plenty of snakes that eat eggs dumbass!.. You may be correct however that ball pythons don't eat them, mine looked at the egg and licked it for a while and was unsure about it, so i just gave him a mouse. Lick my butt Jeff.

Thanx, Adam

CARLiTO_

07-22-05, 06:45 AM

You think you're so smart, the African egg eating snake is the only snake which feeds EXCLUSIVELY on eggs. There are plenty of snakes that eat eggs dumbass!.. You may be correct however that ball pythons don't eat them, mine looked at the egg and licked it for a while and was unsure about it, so i just gave him a mouse. Lick my butt Jeff.

Thanx, Adam

Name some snakes that eat eggs besides the African egg eating snake.

Princess Erica

07-22-05, 08:22 AM

That picture is terrible, Carlito!! Poor baby!

Wizwise2000

07-22-05, 11:01 AM

I also might add that African Egg eating snakes regurge the shell. They're designed for this, because the shell can't be digested. So it's not a matter of "You think you're so smart". You would probably harm your animal. I'm happy you fed it a rodent.

Shane

ReptiZone

07-22-05, 11:39 AM

Ball pythons are not properly equipt to eat eggs not a bad Idea but wrong snake and wrong prey.

The ReptiZone
Marc Doiron

End Times

07-22-05, 12:29 PM

I wish it would of tried to eat it to teach you a lesson. Because either A) it would of constricted the egg, thereby crushing the shell and making a frigging mess, or B) it would of got it down and then got sick and you'd have a hell of a vet bill.

Feeding a ball an egg... what's next?

honduranfreekk

07-22-05, 04:47 PM

You think you're so smart, dumbass!.. You may be correct Lick my butt Jeff.

Thanx, Adam

Jeff I think he likes you :medtoothy :joker:

A EGG for a ball Python come on I will bet my pay cheque on it that a ball python will NOT eat a egg hard boiled,Scrambled or fried lol

I would stick to rats :rolleyes:

monster

07-22-05, 06:58 PM

Well, I read up on it before hand,.. and yes, the african one is equipped with special features for regurgitating the shell.. well instead of retyping i might as well cut and paste on here:

this is talking about the african egg eating snake:
Special muscles at the throat ensure none of the precious egg contents spill out as the egg is flattened by blunt ended vertebrates. Drained and flattened, the eggshell is later regurgitated whole. Other snakes which only occasionally eat eggs carry the unbroken egg in their bodies until the shell is digested. Only a few egg specialists spit up the shell. This allows them to consume more eggs, vital as they usually have no other food in-between egg-laying seasons.

fine, i'm not a pro with snakes, but i was just experimenting, everything has preference, i was just seeing if my snake would like a little variety, but hey i guess i was wrong about the egg for the ball python. OK? i admit balls don't eat eggs. enough about that.

anyways, since so many people are asking "what's next?".. i may as well tell you that i will try to give him a goldfish next. we'll see if he likes it, if not, OH WELL! i won't give him anymore. it's not like i'm force feeding him.

Lrptls

07-22-05, 07:15 PM

i'm all for natural diets, today its hard to get animals on completley natural diets because they put so much crap in the food. just as an example ferrets are completley carnivorous yet comercial ferret food is usually full of vegies and other non meats. for snakes its much easier but for some still hard. red tail boas might not be living off rats and guinea pigs in the wild but they do fine on them in captivity. it is always best to keep it as natural as you can. sometimes even nature screws up and a snake or other animal might try to eat something it really shouldnt. if they do eat something thats not really on their menu and it doesnt harm them then i woudnt see a problem with feeding it to them in captivity. if you went to africa and saw a ball python eat an egg than i would say go for it! try it out, see if yours wants to eat one. but i'm positive its never happend in the wild, it isnt natural and therefore shouldnt be done to a captive snake. i still highly doubt a ball would have ANY interest in an egg, its hard enough sometimes to get them to eat what is natural.

mykee

07-22-05, 08:02 PM

Maybe, since you're in an experimental mode, you should see if you can actually put your entire fist into your mouth, 'cause from where I'm sittin', your foot clearly fits.....

headdown

07-22-05, 08:16 PM

This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard of, first off the whole egg thing was way out there, but a goldfish...WHY? Goldfish are nasty dirty fish potentially carrying nasty diseases, if your ball likes rodents why not stick to rodents and keep yourself a nice healthy snake, as far as I know there are no wild goldfish in Africa thats just silly and stupid actually. To each their own I guess, poor snake.

Phrasty

07-22-05, 08:22 PM

This is sad, you all are actually going along with him. My only concern is the snake and thats not even too bad cuz its not gonna eat what it doesnt want.

As for Monster, dude c'mon you feeling so "experimental" sell the snake and get a GOAT, now THAT will eat anything you give it.
Good luck with the goat hunt.

TheMan

07-22-05, 09:57 PM

BP's eat rodents! Why experiment and potentially harm your snake?

Sam

hhw

07-23-05, 12:46 AM

Adam, variety is not necessarily a good thing, especially when it comes to BP's which are already pretty picky eaters.

Let's just speak hypothetically, and say your BP did eat a chicken egg. What happens if it decides it likes eggs, and nothing else? Eggs are a far stretch from the nutritional components of a rodent, so you'd end up with an unhealthy snake that could have its life span considerably shortened.

I know it may seem sensible to vary a ball python's food items based on the assumptions you have about what you would like to eat if you were in your ball python's position. However, that would just be a projection of your own tastes, and does not represent what would be best for your snake. Anthropomorphizing is a common error among all pet owners (not just snake keepers).

Long story short, if you ever consider deviating from accepted means of husbandry, it's best to thoroughly research the issue beforehand to ensure you're not jeopardizing the health of your pet. That's not to say the accepted means are always the best ones; if that were the case, there would never be any advancements in herpetology. However, until you develop a solid foundation and a more thorough understanding of the species in question, it's perhaps best to leave the research to those better equipped to do so.

sapphire_moon

07-23-05, 01:09 AM

Ya, jeff knows nothing. I would find out a bit about a person before making a comment like that, just take a look at his profile (which includes his website) and see what he knows.

Why vary the snakes diet, if they ate fish "naturally" sure. But BP's don't, so why try? It's only putting the snake at risk for parasites, and stressing him out at the same time. No way to make a reptile thrive. But you are apparently more out for the thrill of it than a love of the species.

monster

07-23-05, 04:42 AM

Jeeze, relax sapphire, i bet i love my snake more than you do your own. Good feedback everyone, but all that aggression was really unnecessary.

Thanx anyways.

CARLiTO_

07-23-05, 09:12 AM

Jeeze, relax sapphire, i bet i love my snake more than you do your own. Good feedback everyone, but all that aggression was really unnecessary.

Thanx anyways.

If u did love ur snake so much, u wouldn't try to feed it goldfish. They have almost no nutritonal value.

Since this thread is full of unnatural things..

here's a bear waving BYE!

http://www.americanbear.org/Jerry_bear%20waving.jpg

Asian Jon

07-23-05, 10:58 AM

but all that aggression was really unnecessary.

You think you're so smart, the African egg eating snake is the only snake which feeds EXCLUSIVELY on eggs. There are plenty of snakes that eat eggs dumbass!.. You may be correct however that ball pythons don't eat them, mine looked at the egg and licked it for a while and was unsure about it, so i just gave him a mouse. Lick my butt Jeff.

LOL! Contradicting don'tcha think?

nita

07-23-05, 12:43 PM

LOL, get that snake to eat a fish, garters wich do eat fish tend to have extremely disgusting craps afterwards so go for, fish does that. Not that I think a ball would eat a fish. If you want variety switch it between, mice, rats, gerbils, hamsters, baby rabbits and the like. Of course we all know that to get a ball to take anything other than what it is accustomed to is almost impossible any of us that have tried to switch from mice to rats knows that.

Tim_Cranwill

07-23-05, 01:53 PM

All you "experienced keepers" on this site can take your "years of hands on exposure to numerous reptiles" and flush them down the toilet along with your HUGE egos. You know not of which you speak of.

Here is a healthy ball python raised exclusively on medium chicken eggs from Safeway... one of the best snake feeder suppliers in Canada. Here she is just about to take down 6 nice, fat eggs that she is constricting....
http://www.cranwill.com/images/ballpythons/29.jpg

And Jeff, you know nothing, no good, non-edumacated punk, it gives me great joy to make you eat your big fancy words...

:p:D:);) LMAO!!!!
I can't believe I was the one who got to tell this joke... egg eating balls... funny stuff. :D

End Times

07-23-05, 02:50 PM

LOL! She must be really hungry!

Jeff_Favelle

07-23-05, 03:52 PM

I like Cranwill's Balls.

CCGeckos

07-23-05, 03:59 PM

Although I don't know Tim personally, I really love his balls also. Nice balls Tim!!

pythonmdk

07-23-05, 04:32 PM

monster

07-23-05, 05:24 PM

Good stuff, I found this thread very enjoyable to read, all the funny responces and the Bp constricting its "clutch of prey eggs" was great. Oh and for you monster, goldfish are terrable food sources for actual fish eaters, so for a species of animal probably has never nor never will eat a fish, this would be doubly bad.
John

And as a species I am talking about every single member of the species, not just this one in question.

Alright, Thanx everyone, great feedback. Exactly the information i needed. Don't worry, i won't even feed him a fish now, cause someone said the crap stinks, ewww no thanx. I hate seafood myself anyway.. I wasn't aware that a ball's diet was so limited, but i guess i know now. I remember a story while i was living in malaysia, that a python had eaten a whole human. They cut open the snake and pulled the body out. Pretty cool stuff if you ask me, but i don't want to jeapordize my lovely ball, so I'll take all your advice.

Have a good weekend!

thanx, adam

End Times

07-23-05, 05:25 PM

My BS alarm is going off! I've seen the pics of this "man eating python" and apparently they were later proved to be a hoax...

galad

07-23-05, 05:55 PM

wow you guys really know how to be hard on someone.

I hope you all feel better.

Aren't you guys some of the top breeders in the country?
And you go around talking to people like that?
I know its the internet but comeone now, some of you are saying how funny it is to make fun of monster. Maybe the guys alittle slow, not everyone is a snake expert.

When you guys start acting like that you really come off as a bunch of arse holes.

this post sickens me

peace

ws

sapphire_moon

07-23-05, 09:05 PM

Have you ever repeated yourself over 1,000 times (literly?) no? try it, it gets quite aggitating. They have answered the same questions over and over and over and over (get it?). So when something as "common sense" as this comes up, it tends to get some either harsh replies, or some joking replies. And you can't really tell which because it's only letters, you can't convey emotions through the internet.

Love that pic tim.....lol

Andy_G

07-23-05, 10:02 PM

More of a question then a statement but...I thought Pits ate eggs in the wild too...?

Denise101

07-23-05, 10:09 PM

I feed my ball a baby chicken once! :rolleyes:

Yea it was about 3 years ago when i first got him, they were out of rats at the pet store so i got a chick, brought it home and defrosted it - he ate it!
The next week he was back on rats(and has been every since) and everything was fine.

~Dee.

monster

07-23-05, 10:29 PM

My BS alarm is going off! I've seen the pics of this "man eating python" and apparently they were later proved to be a hoax...

Nope, sorry, this actually did happen. It was in the Malaysian New Straits Times, a completely legitimate newspaper. The attack happened in a local rubber tapping plantation.. for those of you who don't know, rubber wasn't always synthetic, it was grown in plantations, the sap from the trees is gathered and that is what rubber was made of in the past and to a small degree still is..

Anyways, it's not surprising that the snake was hanging around there, cause the plantation was right near the jungle, the python crushed him and swallowed him whole. But seriously, think about it, it doesn't sound far fetched at all. If you were a 20 ft snake, a human would be just as good of a meal as a wild dog or wild bores.. Especially if the man was by himself. I guarantee that there have been more than a couple of humans eaten by snakes in the past.

Lol, this is getting onto a completely separate subject though.. and ball pythons only reach a quarter that length.

Ryan Pye

07-23-05, 10:57 PM

I have to admit, whether I agree or disagree with all the things that are being said...some of it is so F'N funny, I was Laughing at some of the responses out loud...I love sarcasm

ATBlover

07-31-05, 11:45 PM

If a ball python did eat an egg...it wouldn't constrict it....snakes arent ********...my boa doesnt restrict the rat when it knows its dead...but it still eas it...

paulsreef

08-02-05, 10:26 PM

My ball likes Kinder eggs; a week later she craps me out a surprise toy.

End Times

08-03-05, 06:40 AM

LOL! A surprise toy... nice!

Princess Erica

08-03-05, 05:34 PM

Don't leave us hanging... what kind of toy was it?!

paulsreef

08-03-05, 11:04 PM

A toy mouse.

-okapi-

08-03-05, 11:44 PM

I agree that eggs are a bad diet for a ball, but i wouldnt slam someone for asking a question. Questions are how science is advanced, how knowlege is gained, and how discoveries are made. And for the person who said something to the extent of "i wish the snake did eat the egg so he'd have a huge vet bill" thats cruel and uncalled for. Would you want someone to wish harm to your reptiles just because you had a question? :grumps:

paulsreef

08-04-05, 10:46 AM

There is nothing wrong with asking questions, but after the eggs were not eaten the person mentioned that he is going to offer goldfish next. He's not asking, he is telling. My Iguana would probably eat pizza and icecream if it was offered. Someone might find it amusing and funny to watch. The iguana isn't benefitting from eating pizza, it's just for your own amusement. Are we keeping these animals for cheap kicks or because we care about their well being. It has been well established what a Ball pythons diet consists of.

ATBlover

08-10-05, 03:39 PM

I doubt if a BP ate an egg, it wouldn't constrict it...snakes arent stupid...even when i fed my BP a f/t mouse, and she knew it was dead..she didnt bother constricting it..she just ate it..

JAdkins2451

08-10-05, 04:37 PM

I doubt if a BP ate an egg, it wouldn't constrict it...snakes arent stupid...even when i fed my BP a f/t mouse, and she knew it was dead..she didnt bother constricting it..she just ate it..

All my snakes still constrict even though ALL the food is FT.. So you cant say snakes are to smart to not constrict dead food.

Jamie

ATBlover

08-20-05, 04:38 PM

I didnt say all of them..I just said My BP used to eat it thinking its dead or alive..

Ptindy

08-20-05, 06:11 PM

Edited: Little peed off that day, some things I said I don't really feel that same way about. And i'm too lazy to reconstrute my post, so I will just erase it.

Mike

sapphire_moon

08-20-05, 07:50 PM

that person may be a prick, but he/she is a prick that knows what they are doing. It honestly is not hard to look around and see search at the top of the page. Or to even do a google "egg eating ball pythons", it says plenty about care of bp's and care of the eggs, but I don't see anywhere on them eating eggs.

Belive me, I know how it is to be "flamed" for not doing my research, me and mykee had at it more than a few times, and you know what, he won 99% of the time, simply because (even if you or me or anyone else don't like it) he knows what he's doing, he's been at it longer.
Not alot of people here sugar coat things, and if they did I know I wouldn't know as much as I do. Just because this is a forum doesn't mean everyone has to be nicey nice all the time, and for the general they are nice,
Like I say everywhere else, it's a public forum, not all opinions and thoughts are going to be the same, if you don't like a particular opinion, either ignore it, or debate it. :)

those are some bloody nice hockey cards that get the best care, never seen any treated so well ;)