I hate Tenants! ARRGHHHH!

[End Times]

Hey, peeps, I know I'm fairly new and that I've done much more lurking then posting, but I've just got to get something off my chest. I'm 23 years old, married with two kids, and own my house. I've worked hard to get the things I have, and yet still struggle from time to time due to surprise expenses but for the most part get by alright. I have a basement apartment that I rent out as a mortgage helper, and when people actually bother to pay their rent, I do fairly well financially as the rental income takes care of more than half of my mortgage payment.

Anyway, Last month on June 15th I rented the place to this young woman. I had a bad vibe from her, but really had no real reason not to rent to her and as the unit had been empty for awhile, I was in need of the cash so just said to hell with it and rented to her. Anyway, one month later July 15th rolls by and rent is due. I don't hear from her. So, on the 16th I attache a stern yet polite note on her door stating rent was due yesterday please pay promptly. Anyhow, a couple of days go by and the note is still on her door. So, I peek through the window in her entrance to see the only thing in the living room is a love seat that the tenant previous to her had left behing but that I had kept for her at this new girl's request. I immediately realized what's happened so I unlock the door and sure enough, the b***h has abandoned the unit. It's totally empty save for the love seat and rotting bags of garbage! I don't have a one year lease agreement, but I do make people sign a rental agreement containing rules I expect them to follow as in no smoking, rent is due each month on bla bla, MUST GIVE TWO MONTHS WRITTEN NOTICE!

Obviously I was pretty ticked off. She could of at least took the damn garbage out! There must of been the entire month's worth there!

Well, folks, here's the kicker, this morning my wife is down there cleaning the place up as I'll be showing it today to a friend that is interested in renting, and you'll never guess what.... My wife pulls the fridge and stove out to clean behind them and the f-ing tenant had cut the damn power cords to both applicances! It was almost like she was trying to burn my house down because she only cut half-way through each power cored (both the fridge and stove) and the stuffed paper and plastic bags all around it! My wife said that when she moved the wires sparks were flying! Also, the smoke detector had been removed from the ceiling, placed on the counter and the battery removed...

What the hell?!!?!? What sick person would do something like this! I bent over backwards for this tenant! I let her move in a week early free of charge, let her pay her first payment late as she was having difficulty getting her finances together (welfare was apparently assisting her with the move as she was moving into town for a new job and to get off the system), I had her carpets professionally cleaned, gave her a small freezer because the one above the fridge was a little small, and even let the b***h park in my driveway as I don't own a vehicle but have frequent access to a company vehicle!

Why?!?! Why on Earth would someone do something like this without provocation! I've got kids upstaris for Lord's sake!

Rant over.

[greenman1867]

Call the cops, and fire deptartment, get that lunatic off the streets before she does that again and kills someone. Or at least make sure she is known to the authorities so if she does something like that again they know she's like that.

Count your blessing she didn't kill you and your family or burn your house down.

Sorry to hear that happened but I am glad you found it soon enough.

[NocturnalBC]

WOW! That's crazy, Thank god you are able to rant about it. But hey!, I would totally call the RCMP and atleast make a formal complaint and have this put on file so that if this wack-job does something like this in the future and gets caught then it's not the 1st they've heard of her. You said you had her sign a rental agreement and that welfare was helping move her so you should have all the needed info on her to take action.

[mathaldo]

She seems to be CRAZY!!!

[End Times]

True, I do have the info necessary to nail her, but here's the thing. If I do, it'll cause me financial heartache because the fire department will come in and say "you have to install fire doors, bla bla, this smoke detector it too old, bla bla, you have to supply a fire extinguisher, bla bla, you have to to have two exits in order for this apartment to be legal, bla bla. So it'll cost me an arm and a leg. Also, if I get the cops involved, they'll likely take their sweet *** time and make it impossible for me to re rent the unit before my mortgage payment is due on the first of August. Then, if I call welfare on her crazy ***, they'll likely say I have to hold the apartment for her for a period of four weeks in case in reality she hasn't abandoned it and is coming back - trust me they'd make me do that, tenants have way more rights than land lords, it's a crock of ****.

[Rikki]

Man that sucks, sorry to hear about this. It would cost some money to get on her case. Im just glad you and your family are ok. I dont see why someone would do something like this.

[End Times]

Thanks Rikki. I don't know why either. Some people are just ******** like that. I know some people will likely end up harping on me "to do what's right, to not let her get away with it, or think of the next land lord she rents from" but before you do, realize I'm not interested in hearing it because you are not the one in my financial situation, you are not the one who will lose out on renting the unit for the upcoming month, you are not the one who would be ordered to construct a second exit from the apartment to make it "legal". So that being said, unless you're willing to cough up the dough to cover all of the above, please don't get on my case.

Sorry if that sounds rude peeps, it's not meant too. I just really don't feel like battling through any internet "morality" debates today. Hope you'll all understand...

[galad]

Well first off , I'd hate to say it but if you have a bad feeling about someone that is enough for you to say" No, sorry I cannot rent to you" Its your room for rent you can not let whomever live there for what ever reason you want. I'm not saying its your fault but there are so many people in this world who take advantage of others. Being 23 you shoulld know this by now.

As far as the police go, ya they might go out and look for her. But in this counrty the best she'll get is a slap on the wrist. Nothing ever happens in our system unless someone pays the ultimate coniquence. How much BS is that, our system is completely screwed.
They will not make it impossible for her to re-rent. All she need so do is move to anouther city to start over again.

If it were me personaly I would go out and find this little b***h myself. Someone tries to burn my house down with kids inside and I would go freaking mental. I dont even know what i would do if i found someone like that.
Oh heres the probleme. You take care of the person who almost killed your whole family and now you go to jail for assualt. Wow that makes alot of sence doesnt it.

It's like letting out sex offenders who are at high risk to re-offend. Where do they let these people out in public enighborhoods with children around. A freind of my mother just recently found out a sex offender was living downt the street from her. She phones the cops to ask about it. What do they tell her? "Oh yes mam, he is at high risk to reoffend so keep your children in at night and dont let them out of your site"
He actually said this to her. So now her children are prisoners in thier own house because the wonderfull canadian government let this creep out, because his time was up,not because he was better.

I know thats a little off topic but that is exactly the kind of BS we have to deal with in our country. along with what your dealing with now.

good luck with finding the crazy woman

ws

[NocturnalBC]

The only reason I mentioned the cops was so that it was on file and they had a history on her.

[spidergecko]

If I do, it'll cause me financial heartache because the fire department will come in and say "you have to install fire doors, bla bla, this smoke detector it too old, bla bla, you have to supply a fire extinguisher, bla bla, you have to to have two exits in order for this apartment to be legal, bla bla.

Just curious but if these are requirements for your tenants' safety, why would it be a problem to provide them? Cost might be an issue but safety should be first priority.

[TamTams]

lol ... Did you make fun of her in school way back and maybe don't remember her? <---- LMAO ....kidding, That is wacked! I believe if she did this to you for no reason maybe she has done this to someone else.... CALL THE POLICE ON HER!!!

[End Times]

Just curious but if these are requirements for your tenants' safety, why would it be a problem to provide them? Cost might be an issue but safety should be first priority.

They're not required. If you want to rent an apartment like this it is perfectly legal. What I mean by legal apartment is that it counts as a separate dwelling. In other words, my house would be allowed double the alotment of garbage bags at the curb, would receive two phone books a year rather than one, etc. It is legal to rent the apartment I have, however, the fire department is anal and will force you to bring everything up to code.

Look at it this way, your home is legal because it has insurance, smoke alarms, etc. But if the fire department comes a knocking, they can make you buy new alarms etc because they are no longer up to their standards, it doesn't mean they don't work. Here's a better example, you can sell a car as is, and it would be just fine and you are allowed to do it BUT a certified car is better, no?

[SnakeyeZ]

My god man. Just goes to show....cant trust anyone. I would be flipping every dam stone in town if someone pulled that on me. That is just sick! You got kids....that person is seriously messed up. I suggest you get 3 peice ID (one photo) before you rent! This is serious stuff...

-Rich

[BOAS_N_PYTHONS]

Sorry to hear this.
Glad to hear nobody got physically hurt.

The safety issues should be addressed its just better to have that covered then explaining it after and losing more than the suite or house after. Since you mentioned your going to rent to a friend (then as a friend why not protect him/her then). Another thing is from hearing from a friend that also rents a few suites to people he knows - the one thing he states alot of the time is its best not to rent to people you know like friends. Not saying anything characteristically wrong with it but renting is a financial thing. And not sure how good a friend it is that your renting to but money issues can ruin friendships. And if for some reason down the road they can' t pay you now or later due to whatever, how long will you accept that over the friendship. Again not saying it will happen just letting you know from hearing it from people that do it now they avoid that situation and keep the friends from money issuses.

:)

[samurai]

Thats really too bad tenants have redicoulus rights and this post is a good example of the stuff they can get away with. If the place had of burtn down with her in the room and they checked it out and it wasnt up to code id think youd be in some sierious trouble. Id think about that over the cost of bringing it up to code. Galad its too bad you hate this country so much someone forcing u to stay?

[galad]

ok samurai Im going to post some of the things i said and then im going to explain them to you:

"As far as the police go, ya they might go out and look for her. But in this counrty the best she'll get is a slap on the wrist. Nothing ever happens in our system unless someone pays the ultimate coniquence. How much BS is that, our system is completely screwed.
They will not make it impossible for her to re-rent. All she need so do is move to anouther city to start over again."

Now are you telling me that im wrong. If so then that means you think all she should get is a slap on the wrist and a kick in the butt on the way out the door.
Doesn't seem right to me.


He actually said this to her. So now her children are prisoners in thier own house because the wonderfull canadian government let this creep out, because his time was up,not because he was better."

Again are you telling me that I am wrong when i say there is something wrong with this picture.
A high risk to reoffend and hes let out on the streets!?? Oh yes this makes sence.
and they say "oh it wil cost to much to keep him longer"
oh well money is deffinatly alot more preciouse to use then our children.

come on man give me a break I did not come on here ranting how canada is the worste country ever. Did I?
No, becauase canada is a great place to live, our murder per capital is far less then most small communities in the states.
Yes we are a first world nation that is free and where we are free to do what we please within reason of the law.

But does that mean our system isn't out of wack in some areas. Heck no

peace

ws

[Cornholio]

what a B o yeah this is my first post i just came form redtailboa.net

[theweezel]

Despite people giving you a hard time about how you should solve all those safety issues (which seem trivial) , I think you seem like an honourable guy. I can guess that your little suite is much safer than my apartment lol. I support your choice in how you rent and I hope that you can find a good tenent to help you out financially.

As far as the comment of children bring prisoners in their own home. Registered sex offenders are monitored after their release.

Also, this is adressed to anyone, if you don't like the way the country is run get off your *** and run for parliament. That way you will see, through the poll results, how complaining doesn't solve issues.

[Lindze]

I know the feeling of renting out to someone and they screw you over royaly. With my family owning 5 apartment blocks with a total of 111 apartments that we rent, over the past 15 years i have seen it all.
Speaking about the garbage, we once had to evict a guy because the health department was threating to close the whole building, garbage pilled in the room, storage room, living room, it was gross. bugs were crawling all over the place, the stench was unlivable, i cant see how this guy lived in there. Glad i didnt have to clen it up.
Another apartment we just renovated, someone moved in (mind you they had top references and everything!) two months later they skipped out, we went in and $15, 000.00 and 6 months later we were able to rent it out again. So thats 6 months of lost income, the 15, 000.00 plus the past rent he owed.....its something the system (at least in manitoba) lets slide by, and most of the time you cant recover that money from the person, not even part of it.
Some people can be real jerks, other the nicest in the world.
All i can recommend is you use your gut feeling, get references, and better luck next time.

[Rimshot]

if u own a burmese or anaconda, i suggest you feed her to it.......muahahaha

[End Times]

LOL, no only a ball with plans to get more of the same. I'm not concerned about renting to this friend. I know he is financially stable. I used to be Lead Hand of Security at our local hospital, and when I quit to work at the Humane Society this guy got my job so I know exactly what he's making! LOL! Also, his girlfriend will be moving in with him who also works full-time, so all should be well.

[samurai]

Galad, my post was not meant to make all your points invalid i agree with them however even tho these are big problems when you think about the creeps living next door, when it comes down to it some kids are kept prisoner in there homes because there is a war going on in there backyard and leftover mines in there front yard. I feel safer in this country that i would in any other country.

[galad]

yes well thats just obviouse samurai.. like really comeon man!!

Theweezle how well do you think these guys are monitored? Do you really think there is someone with them 24/7?. Most of them that are at risk of reoffending... do.
Run for parliment you are joking right? What a rediculas statement

Again of course Canada is a great counrty, I love living here. I don't see how me saying we have problemes in our legal system is reason for you two to react the way you did.

Chill mon!

ws

[corn king 73]

Thats just wrong,and i thought my sister in law was a bad tenant. Welfare will not make you hold the place for her for 4 weeks,i have rented to a person on welfare and have phoned them to say that they are no longer living with me and they just said thanks and that was it and it was the same sort of thing and i am sure they already know anyway. You have to be careful(not that you aren't) but with a family man it is hard getting someone that is a good tenant and trust me i have tried and now dont even bother anymore. I have tried family and friends and even people i dont know but they all seem to be will i guess you could say tentants from hell. I hope you find someone that is a good tentant and does not try to hurt you or your family again. good luck.

[End Times]

Thanks. I've got a good feeling about this one. The only problem I foresee is that I can't imagine them staying too long. Both he and she work full-time, so it'll only be a matter of time before they want a bigger apartment, or perhaps wish to buy a house of their own. I don't imagine they'll be renting from me for more than a few months.