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Phoenix
07-12-05, 05:30 PM
I've been looking in to Gargoyle Geckos and what type of housing they need. However, for a 18x18x24 terrarium I've been told that:
A) 2 females and one male can be placed together
B) 3 females are okay, keep males seperated until you introduce him for mating, and only do that for a few days so that it doesn't stress him out too much
C) One female and one male can be housed together for their entire life
D) One female and one male after they are about 6 months old
So what the heck is going on? I feel like the more research I do, the worse it gets. One step forward, two steps back.
Can someone please straighten me out?
clint545
07-12-05, 05:36 PM
Gargoyles can be aggresive towards one another if there is the slightist size difference.
My suggestion if you want to keep 2 together wait till they're at least full grown till you do so.
I myself stick to keeping them individually, esp males and females. I'm planning on breeding mine near the end of the summer, but will be following the male in the cage only long enough for him to do the deed method:)
If the male is housed with a female chances are that he'll lose his tail once she's gravid as it's a good source of protein!
Hope this helps ya out!
Phoenix
07-12-05, 10:09 PM
EEP! I never would have guessed that! I read that he might lose his tail, but they didn't say... that. Thanks for the advice!
DragnDrop
07-12-05, 10:31 PM
After about 7 years of gargoyle keeping, I've decided it's pairs or singles, nothing else.
Females can get quite nasty with other females once they're breeding age. I guess they don't like the idea of him going out with that 'other woman' so they try to beat the living daylights out of each other. Sometimes they'll take it out on him as well for being the root of all the evil. ;) If there's enough space for the females to get away from each other, it might work, but it takes a big enclosure to give each her own personal space and even then it's not guaranteed to work. Once her hormones are in full gear, another female is a threat to her chance of passing on her own genes, so she'll do whatever she can to keep the male handy for her own purposes. Same deal as male to male combat, different gender.
And even if you keep just females together, same deal - the other female(s) are possible threats to her chance of passing on her genes. The fewer females around, the better her chances are of finding a mate.
Male-female pairs generally get along well enough. She just might eat his tail for a good supply of nutrients, but it's not guaranteed. I've never had a female do that to a male, but I've had females do that to each other, as well as bite toes off.
Gargoyles really are calmer than cresties, just as cute and lovable, but you have to set them up properly. They're a bit smaller than cresties in general, but that doesn't mean they need less space. For a pair, I wouldn't recommend less than a 20 gallon tank, lots of plants (real or silk) and bark slabs for hiding in and behind as well as lots of branches so each can pick a good place, no need to settle for leftovers.
And make sure the females are well fed. If they're full, there's less chance they'll feel like snacking on a tail. (BTW, gargoyle tails do grow back).
Phoenix
07-12-05, 10:41 PM
Thanks Hilde, that's great info! Would you put the male and female together after both are fully grown?
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