Racks and Herps

[crocHerper]

Howcome racks are good for snakes, when for ex. a large Ball python will need space both in height and wide enoygh?
I here people and caresheets saying that the Ball python enclosure should be much bigger than a rack's shelf.

[crocHerper]

Any help would be much appreciated.

[mykee]

Rubbermaids in a rack system are both more than suitable for a ball pythons requirements, and are easy to maintain proper husbandry in.

[crocHerper]

But i think that rubbermaids are not so big like a good terarium for a ball python.

Adult Balls need at least 75 cms in height.

What are the measures of a rubbermaid for an adult Ball python?

[mykee]

"Adult ball pythons need at least 75 cms in height."

Wrong.

[crocHerper]

Originally posted by mykee
Wrong.
Wrong is not an answer. Can you be more specific please?

[peterm15]

balls are not even close to aboreal.. and need no more than 6" of hight.. and an adult male will live VERY happily and comfortably in a 36x16x6 rubbermaid.. i have NEVER seen a GOOD ball python enclosure over 16" tall... you should think about looking up some QUALITY care shhets on ball pythons.. wherever you got that info from i wouldnt take anything they told you.. look up some good caresheets and ask a few questions..

[crocHerper]

From what i know Balls are not arboreal but they like to climb in low branches too.

[crocHerper]

A good starter tank for a hatchling is a 10 gallon tank (approximately 20"L x 10"W [50 x 25 cm]). A young adult requires a 20 gallon tank, and full adult may require a 30 gallon tank (36" x 12"W [91 x 35 cm]).
This is from a site that is dedicated to correct reptile husbundry. You, know. Her name is starting from "M" and her site ends to ".org".

[peterm15]

but that M name is also against the keeping of reptiles in capvity.. just look up her name on the BOI.. and tanks in general are not a good enclosure to house balls in....

and plus she keeps iggis not balls.. so if you only keep leos would you write or want to listen to somone telling you how to keep a burm....i doubt it..

when i said a QUALITY care sheet i basicly ment one that has nothing to do with that name.. ive looked at almost everyone of her care sheets and they all seem like crap to me.. and saying a FISH tank for a ball is a perfect example.... as for the hight.. most balls would rather burrow than climb.... and in fact they seem to be kinda clumsy when off the ground...

your obviously new to ball pythons as am i.. but i have done a TON of reasearch and you seem to be on the right track.. just remember if 10 care sheets and 10 ppl say a rubbermaid is better and one says a tank who you gonna listen to....

and also remember this.. there is a reason her name isnt mentioned on this site....

theres a ton of ppl on here that will give you a TON of CORRECT information.. and mykee is one of them.. hes a little busy but if you catch him on a good day hell answer everything you need to know... just look at the name of his site.. he knows what hes doin

[mykee]

If you're quoting "her" website, you have a FAR way to go with regards to learning anything about the PROPER husbandry of ball pythons. Rather than continue this rather fruitless conversation, I would sooner point you to a pet store or an online store that sells books on the captive husbandry of ball pythons. Buy one , or two and stay away from websites that try to carry themselves off as informative.
Also, my one word answer to your statement was as accurate an answer as you'll receive.

[Jeff_Favelle]

Adult Balls need at least 75 cms in height.

That is not a QUESTION so

Wrong.

doesn't need to be an answer.

In the wild Ball Pythons live underground, in termite mounds, and in cracks and crevices. They do NOT need 75cm of height.

Melissa Kaplan? Yikes. Close thread NOW! LOL!

[Paul_Begg]

LOL, well said Jeff.
Although i can understand your concerns crocherper, Ball pythons do lead very secretive lives. This by no means makes small enclosures acceptable, but with experience you will find that they prefer to feel secure and safe. Not only are rubbermaid containers easier to maintain, they also give the python the security they need.
Cheers
Paul@CBQ