my female bcc

[beardieguy]

Here is my female that I bought at last years reptile show in Calgary. Hope you enjoy.

Rickhttp://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y167/richardgrhm/Picture001.jpghttp://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y167/richardgrhm/Picture002.jpg

[thunder]

hate to break it to you, but that's a bci, not a bcc. its nice tho.

[beardieguy]

Well when I bought it I was told that it was a bcc so that is what I have been calling it. I have not really understood how to tell them apart yet.

[boas_and_such]

that's one beautiful bci...very clean...

im hopeing to get a male to breed with my female very soon!

anyway...hope you have another year of good luck with her!

[beardieguy]

I have a male for her as well that I picked up for her. Here is a pick of him.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y167/richardgrhm/Picture004.jpg

[boas_and_such]

wow...now that's nice!

[beardieguy]

Thanks for the kind words. These 2 were my first boas since I moved here. Now I have 10 boas and 6 corns and a leucy texas rat.... now it never ends..

Rick

[boas_and_such]

i know what you mean...even though i haven't been collecting that long i know just as good as anyone how addictive they are...i got my first snake (albino lavender king) a little under 3 years ago and now i've still got him plus 3 more snakes (soon to be 4, then hopefully 5) and a lizard...and i dont think i want it to end...

Paula Branae`

[Dave_18]

i have a couple of years experiance but i started with one corn, then that turned to one corn and a ball python, then i got a female corn an then i got my bci a week ago! im now after another bci, rtb and whatever else i can fit in an afford to keep within the future!
it is indeed an addiction!

[K1LOS]

nice boas.

so right about the addiction, now if i could just get my gf to understand!

Geoff

[thunder]

that male is also very nice, the two are similar and suit each other well. nice pair!

[beardieguy]

Thanks alot everyone. Yeah now I am adding to the collection a male albino who was just born Mar. 7/05 and I am looking at a salmon poss. triple het and a poss dh snow.

Man I am going to run out of room soon...lol

[beardieguy]

yeah and I have about 50 bearded dragons as well, a veiled cameleon, and 4 geckos and the dog. Cannot forget my dog....lol

[varanus69]

my opinion on the female is that it is (or very close to ) a pastel...It is by far the cleanest bci i've ever seen ( we are friends so i've seen other pics) and i think it could be a pastel.. any other opinions?
Either way that is a smaokin boa pair rick

[M_surinamensis]

Just for the record... No matter what some people seem to *think* they can do to distinguish between boa constrictor subspecies via a couple photographs... Scale counts are about as accurate as you can get with animals you can't trace back to reliable import data. Things like general appearance and saddle count are TENDENCIES within a subspecies but what's phenotypically "normal" is not a hard and fast rule and there's a lot of overlap in the generalizations which can be made.

That being said... imperator *generally* have around twenty-thirty dorsal spots while constrictor constrictor rarely have more than twenty two-twenty three (and as few as twelve-fourteen). Your animals are coming in shy of twenty by my count from the photos and the middorsal head stripe isn't showing any distinct lateral projections (another tendency with BCC) so... Do a scale count before giving any credence to the detractors. I'm not suggesting anything too strongly one way or another, especially since a lot of the captive lines are subspecific crosses... but I'm also damn sure that nobody else can be positive of which subspecies those animals are or aren't (well... between the two popular choices anyway) from those photos and anyone claiming otherwise lacks credibility.

[Mugwump]

Could very well be a BCI x BCC cross. Either way, nice looking boa.

[HumphreyBoagart]

I must lack credibility, but at least I can count. LOL I counted 22-23 SADDLES on both. I don't know who told you to count the spots, M surinamensis, but you are supposed to count the saddles. Very nice Bci's though. : )

[M_surinamensis]

You need to stop when you hit the tail Humphrey... and given that spots and saddles alternate one after the other... well, you do the math genius.

[varanus69]

how bout some people settle down here.. buddy just wanted to show off his incredibly nice snakes regardless of sub-species not start another pissing match.

[HumphreyBoagart]

M Surinamensis,
LOL!!!
Yeah the saddles and spots alternate one after the other, but that by no means, means that there is the same number of saddles and spots. For example, there is a saddle on both sides of each spot, therefore there could be 22 saddles, and only 21 spots in between those 22 saddles. Oops I mean...you do the math Genius.
And yes, I realize that you stop at the vent, but seeing as I don't have my xray vision glasses on to see through the snake, I just estimated where the vent would be, which is why I put 22 or 23 saddles.
It's been a pleasure pissing with you! : )
Hump.

Edit:

Varanus
They are very nice Bci's as I said in my previous post.

Beardie
yeah I would say they're pastels
Pretty clean ones too. Nice Match.

[beardieguy]

Thanks all. It took awhile to find that male for her. Now when they are ready I am thinking that they are going to be very clean bcc's or bci's whichever tthey are.I will have to count them after I am done putting everything away from the spring reptiles show that I just got back from.

Thanks again,
Rick

[beardieguy]

Well I counted her saddles and it turns out that she has 21 to the vent. The male has 22 saddles to the vent.

have a good day all,
Rick

[bistrobob85]

My female looks almost the same as yours!! They're just sooo pink!! They also change colors like $%"$%"/$% !!!!

[beardieguy]

My female seems to change color either it is her mood or the lighting. It is weird for sure.

Rick