View Full Version : What Are Some CrAzY Myths you've heard of?
meow_mix450
03-30-05, 10:07 PM
Hey
I thought this would be an intresting topic to discuss. There are a couple of myths out there, and I bet there are some crazy ones. Just tell us what is the crazyest myth youve ever heard about chameleons or know of. Also there was a article written on chameleonnews.com.
1. Chameleons can change to whatever colour they want when comming close to can object. (classic myth)
2. Superworms and Mealworms that can chew through there body. (classic myth)
People still believe it these days. I was in a fish forum not long ago and they were telling everyone how someones fish was fed a superworm and one day it died....so they opened it up and saw the superworm chewing through the stomach. This is untrue because superworms and mealworms will drown in very little water.
I bet there are a couple more but there not comming through haha.
Meow
boywithscales
03-30-05, 10:25 PM
iguanas only grow the size of there tank
snakes dont have bones
all snakes are venomous
i know theres more but i'm brain dead right now, those were the ones that always made me so mad i'd twitch when people said them.
I can give my snake hot dogs.
Asian Jon
03-30-05, 11:30 PM
Frozen rodents come to life when thawed.
Whoops, it suppose to be about chams...
boywithscales
03-30-05, 11:36 PM
the "snakes dont have bones" is priceless
Yeah everyone always say "you have a chameleon? cool, they are the ones that change to the color they are on!" hmm, yeah sure OK, thats what we all learned growing up, it's too much to explain any different cuz when I have tried they look at me like I busted there bubble.
meow_mix450
03-31-05, 04:07 PM
haha snake eat hot dogs?:p thats funny one
Meow
mcfreshdeli
03-31-05, 04:11 PM
Originally posted by labomb
Yeah everyone always say "you have a chameleon? cool, they are the ones that change to the color they are on!" hmm, yeah sure OK, thats what we all learned growing up, it's too much to explain any different cuz when I have tried they look at me like I busted there bubble.
The sad thing is they teach that in school. What the hell!!
dank7oo
03-31-05, 04:38 PM
Really ... ? I haven't been taught that in school ...
Jason
Dank7oo,
All i can do right now is bite my tongue and lauph.
But yea I can rember arguing with my 7th grade teacher about that. Also that dragon fly larva live in water durring their larva stage.
I've also read in a book my freinds younger brother had about animals and reptiles.
It was a fairly new book to published in either 99 or 2000.
Yea snakes eating hot dogs it to funny. I could see a guy in my city telling some that. He's clue less and just doesnt give a rats arse.
peace
kinyonga
04-01-05, 02:37 AM
How about this Myth.....the North American rat snake does not have venom.
http://uninews.unimelb.edu.au/articleid_1149.html
"The consequence of this is that venom is an inherent condition of
virtually all advanced snakes, and that includes the assumed
non-venomous species."
"We even isolated from a rat snake, a snake common in pet stores, a typical cobra-style neurotoxin, one that is as potent as
comparative toxins found in close relatives of the cobra"
Talking about venom, you may find this site interesting too.....
http://wildasia.net/borneo/main/Fea_rainforest_horrors_4.html
"all snakes are venomous"
This is one myth that I wish would die....Veiled chameleons become eggbound if not mated when they reach sexual maturity?
DragnDrop
04-01-05, 08:38 AM
Female chams will die eggbound if not bred the first time they are receptive.
Cham tails grow back, so it's okay to cut off the part that got caught in the door. (Got that from a petstore employee when I asked what happened to the cham's tail).
Only one eye is functional, that's why they developed the telescopic eyes - to be able to see as best they can towards the other side. (Love that one, I really really do :p )
Cham tongues are attached internally somewhere around the rectum and shoot through the body, how else can you have a long tongue like that ?? ( Never thought of folding it accordion style in that big mouth/throat area they have? :rolleyes: )
Sundried and powdered chameleons are a great aphrodisiac and cures STD's and even AIDS.
heebie_geebies
04-01-05, 09:30 AM
Originally posted by kinyonga
Talking about venom, you may find this site interesting too.....
http://wildasia.net/borneo/main/Fea_rainforest_horrors_4.html
"all snakes are venomous"
Could that not be true? It is a supremely vague statement as venomous does not detail the level of toxicity. It just explains that it will cause some reaction.
After claiming that "all snakes are venomous", the site also goes onto say, "However, the venom produced by a majority of snakes simply can have no serious effect on us, at least in the doses delivered by one or even several bites. In many cases, the worst effect would be a mild swelling around the bite."
Back to the chameleon myths, I had a friend asked what happens when I put him on a plaid shirt?
well we need to realize that not all people have the same interest in our critters and therefore may not care to know as much truth. but I really hate it when a petstore employee puts on a sales pitch and tries to sell a bunch of unneccesary garb to go with, or worse yet, gives wrong care info. I once witnessed someone trying to sell a heat rock for a crestie. I think heat rocks should be outlawed for any animal.
vipervenom
04-01-05, 03:04 PM
I agree labomb. Heat rocks cook more critters than they warm up.
The biggest myth I still hear about snakes is ''Snakes are slimy" I completely freak out when they say that. Lol.
I think all of my cham myths were said. lol
Snake Pliscan
04-01-05, 03:18 PM
I'm not sure about the hot dogs, but I do know a gal who feeds her 10' Burmese warmed chicken tenders, whe she runs out of rats.
my grade nine science teacher tried to tell us during biology that all snakes laid eggs, I ended up having to bring in a reptiles magazine with death adders and thier babies lol.
I've also had kids from my school try to tell me they found 6-7 foot long garter snakes lol.
beleive me or not but there ARE snakes that eat hot dogs. i was watching a tv show about animals and they were discusing animals that take over places. this one island is infested with this one type of snake not native to the island. its some time of brown snake. but it is eating EVERY THING, almost all of their native birds are going endangerd because the snakes are eating them and i saw it with my own eyes they had real footage of a snake going into a garbage can and eating a hot dog! suposedly they will eat just about any thing meat or animal and they reproduce like crazy. you can believe me or not but it was a real show and actual footage.
wiseman001
04-02-05, 01:36 PM
I once herd that there is a Plant in the wild jungles of borneo, which holds some sort of secret,
I don't know.. its suppose to have something to do with some big snakes... i think it makes them grow
Anyways.. maybe i'll see if I can find them in the internet and have one shipped..to canada..
I bet the flower smells really good, and gets the snakes HIGH if they ( SNAKES ) smell it.. and they grow..
anyways thats what I herd...
dank7oo
04-02-05, 02:05 PM
An interesting theory - LOL
Jason
kinyonga
04-02-05, 10:18 PM
You asked..."Could that not be true? It is a supremely vague statement as venomous does not detail the level of toxicity. It just explains that it will cause some reaction." and you said..."After claiming that "all snakes are venomous", the site also goes onto say, "However, the venom produced by a majority of snakes simply can have no serious effect on us, at least in the doses delivered by one or even several bites. In many cases, the worst effect would be a mild swelling around the bite."
The above two things do not contradict each other. Just because it says that all snakes are venomous and then says that some venoms have no affect on humans doesn't contradict the original statement that all are venomous.
Its like spiders....some bites are bad for humans (black widow for
instance) while the normal house spider may give you no worse of a bite than a mosquito....but I'm sure I read that all spiders have venom.
Also, just because the snakes have venom, doesn't mean that they have a way to inject it...so thus we consider them to be non-venomous. My thought was that it might be worth being careful if anyone ever cuts up one of the snakes that is called non-venomous in the area near where the venom would be so
that it doesn't get into a cut. Better to be safe than sorry!?
Here are a few more sites concerning "non-venomous" snakes....
http://wildasia.net/borneo/main/Fea_rainforest_horrors_4.html
"all snakes are venomous. Just like spiders,
almost snakes produce a suite of enzymes or chemicals in one form or another in their mouths.
Strictly speaking, all of these can be considered venomous, in that they attack tissue. However, the
venom produced by a majority of snakes simply
can have no serious effect on us, at least in the doses delivered
by one or even several bites. In many cases, the worst effect would be a mild swelling around the bite."
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:xLR3QcjaMqQJ:www.gsa2004.org.au/media/Science-Snakes.pdf+%22rat+snake%22+AND+venom&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
"But non-venomous snakes lacked the delivery system to make them lethal to humans."
http://mn.essortment.com/petsnakeinform_rtwj.htm
"Many snakes produce venom because they possess a Duvernoy gland, which is associated with venom production. Some very common snakes like garter snakes and hog snakes have Duvernoy's glands."
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-30622.html
"These snakes typically have smaller quantities of venom and lack fangs, but they can still deliver their venom via their numerous sharp teeth,"
Back to myths....
These are myths to do with chameleon husbandry...but they might be of interest anyhow....
http://www.chameleonnews.com/myths.html
Chameleons live entirely on air...
All lizards have legs.....
Snakes can hypnotize you with their stare...
You get warts from touching toads....
Its okay to carve your name into a tortoise's shell....
Its okay to poke a hole in a tortoise's shell and attach a chain so it won't run away.....
Reptiles are easy to care for and they make great pets for young children....
Wiseman you over heard someone talking about the second anaconda movie. lol
It was a bit better then the first one, but the idea that the flower (i beleave they called it a blood orchid) has powers to make you live for anouther hundred years is alittle far fetched.
Anyways in the movie they said that because snakes never stop growing untill they die and this food source made them live for hundreds of years, it caused them to grow massive. lol
Aside from that the computer generated snakes looked alot better then the stupid robot they used in the first one. lol
peace
vipervenom
04-04-05, 02:18 PM
Haha, kinyonga, your last myth is so true!
Just curious though, kids as in how old?
Oh a good myth that was just busted by the myth busters on discovery channel.
Daddy long legs are the most toxic spider in the world there fangs are just too small to penitrate human skin.
lol
peace
I heard that before somewhere........
vipervenom
04-04-05, 06:48 PM
And the outcome was..?
Lol, I heard that as well, but didn't beleive it because if their fangs were to weak, why would it have the venom int he first place, and that powerful?
So I'm guessing it was proved wrong. Lol.
kinyonga
04-04-05, 08:49 PM
To vipermom...
Re: age of children...
I don't remember any specific age being mentioned....but I would hope that any child would be supervised (up to a certain age) when he/she was old enough to have a reptile as a pet...for the safety of the pet and the child. IMHO, the age at which I would no longer supervise my child with a reptile would depend on the child and the reptile.
Why did you ask..if you don't mind telling me?
The outcome on myth busters was they busted the myth.
They used a strong microscope to zoom in on the spiders fangs after they put it to sleep. Then they used electric pulses to make the venom come out, and a tiny hair sized pipet to exract it.
They then injected a lab mouse with the venom, at the same time they injected an equal amount of black widow venom into anouther lab mouse.
the one with the black widow vemon died. While there was only mild effects on the mouse injected with the daddy long legs venom.
They then made a chamber for one of the guys to stick his arm into, with about 50 daddy long legs. AFter about half an hour one finally bit him. And did nothing but cause a mild irritation that when away in not even 30 seconds.
The greatest t.v show on today other then simpsons, family guy and king of the hill.
peace
vipervenom
04-05-05, 05:39 PM
Haha, kinyonga, I totally agree. I just asked because some people completely underestimate herpers who are under the ages of 18, and although the majority do not have the proper experience, there are still many of us who are gaining it, have lots already, or are packed full of knowledge. No harm done, and no offense taken. I was just curious.
HumphreyBoagart
04-11-05, 03:22 AM
Originally posted by galad
They then made a chamber for one of the guys to stick his arm into, with about 50 daddy long legs. AFter about half an hour one finally bit him. And did nothing but cause a mild irritation that when away in not even 30 seconds.
Well that doesn't quite seem fair to me. Why didn't they put a guys arm in a chamber of 50 black widows for half an hour!?!
How the hell are you supposed to do an accurate comparison if you only try the one? :D
Originally posted by galad
Dank7oo,
All i can do right now is bite my tongue and lauph.
But yea I can rember arguing with my 7th grade teacher about that. Also that dragon fly larva live in water durring their larva stage.
I've also read in a book my freinds younger brother had about animals and reptiles.
It was a fairly new book to published in either 99 or 2000.
Yea snakes eating hot dogs it to funny. I could see a guy in my city telling some that. He's clue less and just doesnt give a rats arse.
peace
Sorry to say this, but dragon fly larvae DO in FACT live in water .... but they are considered nymphs... look em up.. used to catch them as kids.. they are VERY voracious.. eating tadpoles and small minnows.
Yes I know shadow that's what the argument was about. SHe said they didn't live in water durring the larvae stage. lol
Sorry for the confusion lol.
Humphrey I have no idea what you are trying to get at. lol
Do I sence a hint of sarcasm?
HumphreyBoagart
04-12-05, 01:03 PM
Sarcasm!?! What on earth is sarcasm!?! :D
Collide
04-12-05, 02:27 PM
Sarcasm! what is this u speak off i wish to know what this new thing is!!!!
vipervenom
04-12-05, 02:31 PM
Haha, but I kinda see Humphrey's point. What if they were the most toxic spider in the world? He would be dead right now all for an experiment!
kinyonga
04-13-05, 01:36 AM
Oops! When I read my post to see what I had said, I realized that I mistyped your "name" at the top. Sorry about that! Guess their was a lack of co-ordination between the brain and the fingers! :(
I know quite a few VERY good herpers who are well under the age of 18....but there are some who shouldn't be keeping herps out there too. It doesn't bother me so much about the lack of experience...its the ones who lack listening "powers". We all had to learn....and at least there is a lot more information out there these days.
You said..."No harm done, and no offense taken. I was just curious"...no harm was meant...and I was just curious too!
vipervenom
04-13-05, 01:43 PM
Lol, it's all good. I totally agree, many younger herpers have a pride they feel is hurt whent hey need to ask for help, or often, when receving it, take it offensively or just don't listen. Asking for help, no matter what age, is the most courageous and smartest thing you could do when it is needed.
I am glad more and more people are starting to realise you must research before owning any animal, and the more information and records we get, the better the animals will be in captivity.
Anyways, back to the post, I still often hear:
"All trantulas and scorpions are deadly"
It really bothers me as they aren't thgat bad or necessarily dangerous. Of course there are a few, but for the most part make amazing pets, that are very unique in their habits.
HumphreyBoagart
04-13-05, 02:04 PM
I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I think they are one of the most toxic spiders in the world and you would be dead. I was totally joking, I understand why they didn't do it! : )
Originally posted by vipervenom
Haha, but I kinda see Humphrey's point. What if they were the most toxic spider in the world? He would be dead right now all for an experiment!
Haha, but I kinda see Humphrey's point. What if they were the most toxic spider in the world? He would be dead right now all for an experiment!
Lol they tested the venom on mice first lol
the funny thing was buddy with his arm in the tube hated spiders with a passion lol.
Theres one way to over come a fear.
lol
vipervenom
04-14-05, 10:44 AM
Lol, I don't know, I think abetter way to overcome it is to see how docile spiders can be. They rarely bite when just handling them ,but if you threated to hurt them they will, one people with arachniphobia see that it helps them get over their fear a little better.
LOl yea so true. But i'd love to see someone handle a goliath bird eater. lol.
Apperantly they are extremely mean. According to my turatula book.
The only tow spiders I am interseted in keeping would be a black widow and a goliath birdeater.
I got a pretty good story about the black widow.
I used to work at Pizza Hotline. We would always get our shippments of cooking oil from California.
Well the driver of the truck is unloading all of the jugs ina box.
So hes about to reach into the handle of one of the bosex and sees some black legs sticking out.
He quickly pulled his hand back, and shakes out the box.
Out comes a beautifull female black widow spider. She was pretty big and scared the crap out of the driver.
So we put it into a container and I offered to buy it off of him for 20 bucks. The jerk off says no. "I'm going to take it to the Uof M, so they can have a look at it"
"look at what I said its one of the most toxic spiders in the world, they won't do anything but probably destroy it. I'll give you 40 for it!" I replied.
But he just wouldn't do it. I even offered him 50.
Before he left I told him I wish it had bitten him. Just jokingly.
If it had bitten him I would have been able to keep it though. But buddy would have been in a world of pain I doubt we keep the anti-venom anywhere here in winnipeg.
lol
Thats my black widow story lol. very exciting lol
peace
vipervenom
04-14-05, 03:47 PM
Lol, that's pretty scary. Note to all Fed-Ex couriers, watch out for deadly spiders. Lol.
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