NC state ban

[EricWI]

This is called the "Garwood" bill that will ban boids with the potential to exceed 8 feet, certain monitor species, the venomous lizards, and venomous snakes. http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/gascripts/BillLookUp/BillLookUp.pl?Session=2005&BillID=S1032

[RB420]

That really sucks for anyone in NC. i think goverments are a little to eager to just ban certain animals. Too me its stupid, the animals are rarely if ever a problem....its usually the people that own them. Whether it be pitbulls or boids. It doesn't make too much sense to me....although i have noticed there are quite a few places with large boid bans that just don't enforce it...Alberta?

[wiseman001]

Probably because thos ( BAD OWNERS) let there reptiles go and the FISH, GAME, AND WILDLIFE, have to go in and collect these species with little training and Not knowing what to do with them.

I Guess they have had enough of this and have gone to the authorities to stop ppl from having them.

[peterm15]

the smame kinda stuff is banned in by area.. except were only alloud to keep coulibreds that dont excced 6 ft

[RB420]

does anyone know where i would go to find the laws in my area of ontario. im in hamilton

[NajaAnja]

Click here to read the proposed NC Bill in its entirety (http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/Sessions/2005/Bills/Senate/HTML/S1032v0.html)

Here is the list of what they are planning to include, you can view the bill in its entirety at the link above.


(1.) Class Mammalia
a. Order Carnivora
1. Family Felidae (lions, tigers, leopards, ocelots, servals, etc.) – all species except domestic cats.
2. Family Canidae (wolves, foxes, jackals, etc.) – all species except domestic dogs and indigenous foxes.
3. Family Ursidae (bears) – all species except black bears.
4. Family Viverridae (only binturongs).
5. Family Procyonidae (only kinkajous and coatis).
6. Family Hyaenidae (hyenas, etc.) – all species.
b. Order Marsupialia – only kangaroos.
c. Order Perissodactyla – only rhinoceroses.
d. Order Primates (lemurs, monkeys, chimpanzees, gorillas) – all species.
e. Order Proboscidae (elephants, etc.) – all species.
f. Order Rodentia – only prairie dogs and Gambian rats.
(2)Class Reptilia
a. Order Squamata
1. Family Varanidae – only water monitors and crocodile monitors.
2. Family Boidae – all species whose adult length has the potential to exceed eight feet in length.
3. Family Colubridae – only boomslangs and African twig snakes.
4. Family Elapidae (cobras, mambas, etc.) – all species.
5. Family Nactricidae – only keelback snakes.
6. Family Viperidae (vipers) – only nonindigenous species.
7. Family Helodermatidae (beaded lizards, Gila monsters, etc.) – all species.
8. Family Hydrophiidae (sea snakes, etc.) – all species.
9. Family Atractaspidae (mole vipers, etc.) – all species.
b. Order Crocodilia (crocodiles, alligators, caimans, gavials, etc.) – all species.
The Department may declare any additional species, families, or classes of wild animals not specifically listed in G.S. 19A‑71(c) to be an inherently dangerous animal for the purposes of this Article if the animal meets the definition set forth in this subsection.
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Here are the NC Representatives contact info, lets try and get some nice letters (no hate mail, etc) going in rebuttal. There is already a campaign started over at TRR http://thereptileroom.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=2129

Senators/Phone/Fax/Rank

Elizabeth Dole (R-NC) 202-224-6342 202-224-1100 JR

John Edwards (D-NC) 202-224-3154 202-228-1374 SR



Congressmen/Phone/Fax/District

Frank W. Ballance, Jr. (D-NC) 202-225-3101 202-225-3354 01

Cass Ballenger (R-NC) 202-225-2576 202-225-0316 10

Richard Burr (R-NC) 202-225-2071 202-225-2995 05

Howard Coble (R-NC) 202-225-3065 202-225-8611 06

Bobby Etheridge (D-NC) 202-225-4531 202-225-5662 02

Robert (Robin) Hayes (R-NC) 202-225-3715 202-225-4036 08

Walter B. Jones, Jr. (R-NC) 202-225-3415 202-225-3286 03

Mike McIntyre (D-NC) 202-225-2731 202-225-5773 07

Brad Miller (D-NC) 202-225-3032 202-225-5746 13

Sue Myrick (R-NC) 202-225-1976 202-225-3389 09

David E. Price (D-NC) 202-225-1784 202-225-2014 04

Charles H. Taylor (R-NC) 202-225-6401 202-226-6422 11

Melvin L. Watt (D-NC) 202-225-1510 202-225-1512 12




Scott Bice has also started (still editing now)a form letter than can be sent for those that dont write letters and it can be found in that thread as well. I finished letter will be posted.

Thanks for your time. You all know your state could be next.

Anja

[Jeff Hathaway]

Frankly, I think that is a pretty reasonable list. Much better than many other proposed lists I've seen, which often simply prohibit all boids/pythons, etc. Personally, I would up the boid limit to 10' or possibly 12', to allow for boa constrictors but still prohibit burms, rocks, reticulateds, etc. And I would add nile monitors to the prohibited varanid list.

There are a fair number of exemptions as well, though the 'licensed or accredited' term is a little vague as it doesn't describe what body is to grant licenses or accreditation, develop standards, etc.

Jeff Hathaway
Sciensational Sssnakes!!

[beanersmysav]

All I have to say is fight it if you'd like yes it's b/s but you wont win. Here in NY I know there was over whelming support to fight this rediculous ban and as of January we can no longer own, Croc,Nile, Black/white throat monitors, rock,retic pythons native turtles such as red eared sliders and the list goes on it was quite rediculous but weither you want it to happen or not the government does what they want.

[Jeff Hathaway]

That isn't always true. Toronto originally proposed a law that was truly unreasonable, and with a lot of effort on the part of many people, it was changed to one that is quite reasonable though still not quite perfect.

Just make sure that what you're fighting for is something that you can convince legislators would sit well with the general public. Pushing for everyone to be able to own crocodile monitors at will is likely to be a waste of time.

Jeff Hathaway
Sciensational Sssnakes!!