View Full Version : Better then a cup o java!
StickyToes
03-17-05, 06:51 PM
This morning when I got out of bed and went to turn on all the reptile lights these little guys were the first ones to greet me!
It never gets old finding hatchlings staring out at you from an incubation container!
http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/511/5887Phantasticus_Hatchlings.jpg
http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/511/5887Phantasticus_Hatchlings_2.jpg
Here is a shot that gives a good idea of size on these little guys!
http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/511/5887Phantasticus_Hatchlings_3.jpg
These guys are sooo wobbly after they first hatch! It's quite amusing to watch them walk around as they try to find any sense of coordination of their limbs.
I'll post more pics of these little guys after they go through their first shed and settle into their new home in the coming weeks.
Thanks for looking! :D
The Dragon Lady
03-17-05, 06:54 PM
congradulations they are adorable!
silent_truth
03-17-05, 06:59 PM
now that is awesome. Congrats! I see you're using the fliter foam method. I always wondered, is the foam kept damp by making it wet periodically or is the dampness of the perlite/vermiculite enough to keep the humidity up by itself? Also, have you tried any other techniques for incubation and did they work? Once again, congratulations on the hatchlings!
-Adam
DragnDrop
03-17-05, 07:05 PM
Congrats!! That's fantastic!!!
The first picture looks like an alien invasion :)
beanersmysav
03-17-05, 08:22 PM
you are a luckkkkyyyyy guy...
Manitoban Herps
03-17-05, 09:57 PM
Wow!
Cool
clint545
03-17-05, 10:12 PM
Awesome! Congrats!!!! The past while I've been thinking of getting some Phants in the future. Could any of you recomend any books that deal strictly with the Uros?
I've been searching but only found one, and it's not availible:(
Thanks!
macd0282
03-18-05, 12:43 AM
wow...their soooo tiny....congrats on the babes!
CDN-Cresties
03-18-05, 12:49 AM
Congrats, they look awesome!
StickyToes
03-18-05, 03:53 AM
Thanks everyone!
We are pretty psyched that they hatched out really strong!
Adam - My first attempt at breeding these guys a few years ago I originally just planted them in vermiculite and I kept it way too damp. Out of the first 4 eggs I incubated this way only one hatched, and it was weak and died. At the time I was a regular lurker on the GGA listserver and there were discussions about different incubation methods of Uroplatus quite frequently. I tried the filter foam method and it worked great, so I think it will be the only way we ever incubate Uroplatus eggs now and in the future. Neil Meister uses a clay like product and the foam, but unfortunately I can't seem to find anything similar, and when I've asked about it I've always gotten really weird looks (especially when I explain what we are using it for). I've been using perlite for quite a few years on various species of gecko eggs with pretty good success. The perlite is kept very damp and the foam is dry so as to limit the amount of moisture the eggs are in contact with. As long as you consistently check the perlite the humidity in the container will stay high enough. Frequency of wtaering will of course depend on the amount of airholes in the container. At a fluctuating temp of 64-70 degrees they took 96 days to hatch.
Clint - Try the GGA website if you haven't already. There are some back issues of Gekko that have articles on the genus.
http://www.gekkota.com
Other then the book by Svatek and van Duin I haven't come across any other books exclusively on the genus. You should try and get the issue of Reptiles magazine that has Neil's article in it. Excellent info on the species!
Congrats!! That's fantastic!!!
No pun intended I'm sure! :rolleyes: j/k :p
Thanks once again for looking everyone!
StickyToes
03-21-05, 07:39 PM
I moved them to a new home yesterday and snapped some pics in the process. Here is one of both of them and it shows the difference in color on them.
http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/500/5887Phantasticus_Hatchlings_7_1.jpg
They are already hunting, which is awesome to watch the adults do, but is out of this world to watch in the hatchlings as they look like itty bitty versions of the adults including the tail wagging and all! :D
DragnDrop
03-22-05, 09:59 AM
Neil Meister uses a clay like product and the foam, but unfortunately I can't seem to find anything similar, and when I've asked about it I've always gotten really weird looks (especially when I explain what we are using it for).
I think you're talking about ceramic soil, right? That's the same stuff I use, thanks to the GGA a few years ago. There's no way I'm going to use anything else now unless they stop making the ceramic soil. In Europe it's sold as Seramis.
You can probably find it at hydroponics stores or garden centres since it's sold as aquatic soil for ponds. Some aquarium websites I've checked mention that it works great for a substrate ( - the nitrogen cycle and all that, thanks to the millions of holes in the particles) so check a well stocked aquarium store.
There's a website if you want to check it out more. This page explains what the stuff really is: What is Profile (http://www.profileproducts.com/lawn/lawn_12.html)
little_dragon_
03-22-05, 03:38 PM
Wow I'm really happy for you they are awesome!
Best of luck raising them!
JennaBean20
04-09-05, 04:48 PM
They are soooooo cute!! :O) Good luck with raising them!
mmichele
04-28-05, 01:11 PM
SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo cute i really like the one on the right
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