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Reticsrule
03-07-05, 09:18 PM
i have a few questions about normal male retics.
1. What is their average length?(i know this can be broad)
2.What is their average weight?(also broad)
3.Do you think i could go from a bci to a male retic with nothing in between and not have any problems?
Do retics have the most "crushing power" of the big snakes?(i just thought so because they are all muscle)
I would also love to see pics of you retics if you have any:)
thx
JimmyDavid
03-07-05, 09:35 PM
Male retics can grow to 18 feet or more ( they don't fall that much behind females).
140 pounds could be a good average weight.
The snake with the most crushing power is the Boa constrictor. But retics are up there, also. At over 20 feet, i don't see any other snake as strong as a retic.
I've heard as small as 12ft. and like Jimmy said 18ft. . The average seems to be between 15-18ft. . The difference between working with a Retic and many of the other commonly kept large constrictor is their activity level. They seem to be more aware than other snakes. They can be very difficult to handle, especially for those not used to working with giant snakes. My Retics continue to offer a challenge for me time and time agian.
If you're going to get one, start with a hatchling, ask lots of questions, and handle it often. Dwarfs are even better for a Retic beginner, super dwarfs being the best choice.
daiyoukai
03-08-05, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by JimmyDavid
Male retics can grow to 18 feet or more ( they don't fall that much behind females).
140 pounds could be a good average weight.
The snake with the most crushing power is the Boa constrictor. But retics are up there, also. At over 20 feet, i don't see any other snake as strong as a retic.
20 foot retic vs 20 foot green conda, which is stronger?
If i am not mistaken i would say the green anaconda in both power and speed.
Reticsrule
03-08-05, 07:10 PM
im not planning on getting one anytime soon but i was just wondering what their average size is.
God i love those things:D
JimmyDavid
03-08-05, 10:16 PM
Originally posted by daiyoukai
20 foot retic vs 20 foot green conda, which is stronger?
probably the Anaconda. She'll have quite a weight advantage, there.
But think of it this way: The chances of an anaconda reaching 20 feet equal those of a retic reaching 26 feet. Considering the extreme sizes for both species, i have little doubts that the retic is stronger, in the end.
BMX_PYTHON
03-08-05, 10:17 PM
140lbs on a male! ha!! Try getting a male that big to breed. Most people keep their males much leaner. I've seen, male at 14ft and 30lbs+, not skinny but lean with good weight. I understand they can get 140lbs, but that's no where average. I mean some males(yes mainland) stay as small 8-9, and others can get large like the baldogos 21ft male super. But yeah 140lbs is crazy for an average.
This is true, small males make better breeders. The larger the male Retic is, the more lazy they seem.
JimmyDavid
03-08-05, 10:59 PM
well, he didn't say if he's gonna try to keep the snake lean or not. I assume he's gonna feed regularly and as much as the snake wants. With good feeding i don't see a problem in getting a 140 pound retic.
He didn't ask a weight for the first 2 years, or the first 4 years, or whatever, so i gave him a total weight that the snake might attain in it's life-time. Yes, 140 pounds is more than possible.
Reticsrule
03-09-05, 07:37 PM
well if i would get one could i feed it moderatly and have it wind up in like the 12-15 foot range?
lostwithin
03-09-05, 07:57 PM
Feeding less to attain smaller sizes is not a healthy practice, on the flip side over feeding is also detrimental to the snakes health, No snake should be able to eat whatever it wants as much as it wants, because they will over do it, you have to remember there natural instinct is to eat as much as possible whenever possible because in the wild it could be a long time before the next meal. In captivity you have to consider that the snake is less active, and will receive regular meals so overfeeding is something you really have to be careful of.
If i were you I would do allot of research and save up for a dwarf retic, then you can enjoy all the perks of a retic without the worry of it hitting an unmanageable size.
Also I would like to add by the type of questions your asking you seem to have a concern for the danger factor that goes along with owning large constrictors. and that really is a good thing to think about. But I would like to point out that regardless of what size your retic ends up at, be it 15' or 20' it will be able to seriously injure or even kill you. that last 5 feet isn’t going to make it any more or any less dangerous.
Devon
Reticsrule
03-09-05, 08:32 PM
im not worried about the danger of them which i know is very high but i was just wondering what their sizes are so that when i get one someday ill know how big they will get.
Reticsrule
03-09-05, 08:34 PM
ill post a new thread later about dwarf and super dwarf retic information as i dont know much about them at all
BMX_PYTHON
03-09-05, 11:06 PM
I never said feeding less, but 140lb males is crazy! I'm looking at a 14ft male, with 35-40lb body weight and he is good weight, I mean not fat not skinny, but good. Seeing how 14ft is the norm, I CAN NO WAY IMAGINE A 14t 140lb MALE RETIC... That is ofcourse if you got it obese, but still 140lb male is crazy.
Reticsrule
03-11-05, 06:12 PM
males average 12'-14' adult size
i found a site that agrees with what i origionally thought.
www.newenglandreptile.com
i think they know what theyre talking about(not saying you guys dont)
ReptiZone
03-11-05, 07:56 PM
Retic's are some of the most beautiful Large Constrictors out there, that is my opinion.
To my knowlege the Green Anaconda is pound for pound the strongest animal on the planet. This is why they are feared by non experienced herpers.
As for Retic sizes 12'- 14' even 16' is not unheard of you weights can verry for 50 Lbs - 150Lbs it all depends on the indavidual metabolisim of each snake. Is it a geneticly strong animal who big was its parents or even his grand parents these are all desiding factors.
Lets not forget what are you keeping it for.
I.E. Breeding, a nice sizeable display animal, familly pet.
These as well will decide how you feed him.
Will you feed him large prey less often to see just how magestic these animals are and how they are a force to be recond with if the proper respect is not there.
Will you feed smaler prey more freaquently to get him up to breeding size faster.
All this, is stuff that you will decide there is not realy a wrong way to keep Retic's you would be amazed how well they adapte to a diverse climat. Keep them warm keep them fed alow them to strech. Start with a 7-10 day regiment and watch him sprout he will get long fast but you will see that he will be lean but verry strong for a 6 footer.
This is all the advice a have to offer at this time if you have specific questions post them here or PM me I will be more then happy to answer them I have seen and owned my fair share of Retic's.
The ReptiZone
Marc Doiron
wiseman001
03-11-05, 08:19 PM
Retic isn't a snake to mess with.. its the longest snake species in the world ( Guinness book/world records ) 33.5 feet just behind the conda's.... These are very large snakes and require Large FOOD sources...as males and females hit full size... Hope U have a few large GOATS.. Pigs.. or 3 dozen rabbits, not a snake that can be easily handled without 3 ppl...try owning a female burm.. at full size.. i don't have one but someone i know, there burm is 14 feet female and is extremely strong and not hittin full size yet.
If U'r in the Toronto area.. drop by reptilia.. there retic is well overr 20 feet.. and would easliy down a small cow
Reticsrule
03-11-05, 08:24 PM
i live near pittsburgh so i wouldnt be able to see that monster:( but im not planning on getting one anytime soon i just wanted to know what their size was.
wiseman001
03-11-05, 08:25 PM
http://www.reptilia.org/care_sheets/snakes/reticulatedpython.htm
JimmyDavid
03-13-05, 08:54 AM
Don't get fooled by "quick & easy " caresheets, around the net. Everyone who has kept retics long enough knows that males grow slower than females but get there.
Compared to Anacondas and other great snakes, retics have little sexual dimorfism.
I don't know how many times i have to say this(?) but i'll say it again: Don't take your conclusions about your male retic after you've kept it for 4 or 5 years. Take your conclusions after 15 years or more, because by then, that 14' snake that you thought had done all the growing, will be 20'+.
jparker1167
03-13-05, 05:30 PM
reticsrule im near pittsburgh too, im in ellwood city where are you
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