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Shad0w
02-15-05, 08:11 PM
Austin Stevens gets bit by cobra, and then returns to photograph the same snake after returning from the hospital. Crikey!

LOL

http://od-msn.msn.com/14/mbr/Austin_7deadlystrikes1_msn.wmv

CDN-Cresties
02-15-05, 08:31 PM
Wow thats crazy. Pretty funny how he only waits two hours to go back.

dave68
02-15-05, 08:42 PM
Wow and I thought Steve Irwin was an idiot!! This guy really takes the cake!!

Dave

Ptindy
02-15-05, 08:46 PM
That is nutts. I would hesitate to do that with a cornsnake nevermind a kingcobra!! Haha.. jk

Mike

Bartman
02-15-05, 08:47 PM
Austin is WAY dumber then Irwin. Austin makes everything sooo dramatic and ive seen him toss a few snakes, fight with a conda when it aint fighting back, all for ratings..he sucks big time.

Crazy vid

BOAS_N_PYTHONS
02-15-05, 09:47 PM
BOB:

Holy fashizzle :D

I just starting catching his shows on Animal Planet and was like this guy has to get bit more often than Manitobans by mosquitoes. So where are those vids, ahhhhhhh I see there are some bit videos too ;)

Thanks for sharing.

Tony

moperri
02-15-05, 10:07 PM
AHAHAHAH that is a very interesting video. By the way that is a Naja annulifera, not a king.
MO

Double J
02-15-05, 10:30 PM
Perhaps there is some reason why that I am not aware of... but why is it that many members feel the need to dump on guys like Steve Irwin as well as some of the other celebrity herpers? Let's not forget that these guys generally know their stuff rather well regardless of what the producers chose to show on the screen... though every TV herper has their specialty. Years ago.... back in the mid 90's.. Steve Irwin was writing articles on monitor husbandry and breeding for the Vivarium magazine, and taking part in captive breeding and conservation programs. Plus, guys like Steve have made immense contributions to general knowledge of reptiles to the otherwise ignorant public..... and I would bet my hat that guys like Irwin have made an impact with respect to increased awareness of wildlife conservation. Sure... Steve Irwin and some of the other guys over dramatize, and make some bone headed statements, and do a few things we would consider unwise....... but these guys are out there working for ratings. You can't really blame Steve Irwin for that. If his ratings go through the toilet... he loses his show etc etc. I am sure that most 90% of us here would kill to do what he does for a living. It is easy for us to sit back and criticize..... but I think there are far more good things that go on that hit the cutting room floor due to the whims of the *producers.* Steve is not in complete control of what goes on the screen....... and I am sure that he is pushed and pressured by the producers to do things he would not otherwise do. But imagine the pressure of making an internationally syndicated television show. I think Steve Irwin deserves far more respect than what many here give him. I would bet that he is handling things with far more integrity than most of us would in his shoes. Regardless of the things we disapprove of or knitpick about....... we have to remember that Steve Irwin still is still passionate about herpetology and herpetoculture.... and has done far more for the awareness of conservation than many of us could ever hope to accomplish.

Feel free to tear my post apart.. but my opinion will remain the same.

Tim and Julie B
02-15-05, 10:36 PM
Well I just typed this on another thread so I might as well copy and paste it here as well:

Snakemaster is very sensationalized. Falling in rivers rappelling down waterfalls etc. But it is a good show. I agree I didn't like the man eating thing being mentioned 10 times in a hour long show either.
It's funny how rep lovers are the most critical about these shows.....at least we get to see snakes in the wild on TV. I don't think there has been a thread yet with any of those TV herpers that someone hasn't bitched and complained about. I am not an Austin Stevens fan club member. But so far we have bashed Brady Barr, Steve Irwin, Mark Oshea on this site.......why? You think we amateurs would look up to these people who get to do this for a living as well as doing field research. I just find all this odd. TB


Double J: I totally agree.

beanersmysav
02-15-05, 10:37 PM
Haha respect them or not that's nuts :)

By the way Double J your quote ever heard those lyrics backwards? Of that exact sentence of the song, true or not it's freaky stuff.

sneaky_boa
02-15-05, 10:43 PM
Personally, great that guys like him are filming wildlife, but why not do it National Geographic style? All non-invasive like? There is absolutely no need to invade the animals home range and then pull it out of its tree, or rock, or den or whatever and then procede to handle, mis-handle taunt and aggrivate the animal causing absolute UNNECESSARY stress. Great footage of these magnificent creatures can be obtained (and I've seen it) without making a jack-*** of yourself and stressing the animal out. I'm sure these fellows know a lot about what they're doing, but just because you can doesn't necessarily mean that you should.

That's the problem I have with what these characters do (great people, great works in zoos and with conservation efforts...but are all the antics really necessary???)

munchy
02-15-05, 10:47 PM
**** with fire theres a good chance youll get burned..

Double J
02-15-05, 11:00 PM
Sneaky boa.... I understand your point.. and I do agree.... but does the ignorant layperson really want to sit through a documentary? No. People these days have rather short attention spans. I certainly prefer a National Geographic style documentary over the TV herper shows.... but that style of documentary does not appeal to all demographics. I think that guys like Irwin have helped to bring herps into the mainstream.... and I think they have helped out the hobby overall. They have brought herps into people homes thorugh their television screens... and helped to de-mystify and de-villainize snakes as a whole. They are not perfect, but the public would be far less exposed to reptiles, and far more afraid as a whole without guys like Irwin.

HumphreyBoagart
02-15-05, 11:20 PM
LOL Munchy! You remind me of some sorta "new school" prophet or somethin with all your modernized proverbs! I love it!

munchy
02-15-05, 11:21 PM
thats just how i get down. speakin the truth maaaaan!!!








look at your post count :D

HumphreyBoagart
02-15-05, 11:24 PM
Nice! Only you would notice that! I don't wanna post anymore in a way so it stays there, but that would make too many people on this site happy, so here I go...

Double J
02-15-05, 11:41 PM
Originally posted by beanersmysav
By the way Double J your quote ever heard those lyrics backwards? Of that exact sentence of the song, true or not it's freaky stuff.
I certainly have. I was creeped out beyond belief the first time I heard it. That wore off quickly though :D

"If there's a bustle in your hedgerow, don't be alarmed now"

Bring Samwise Gamgee to mind anybody?

What about ".. and the forest will echo with laughter.." Perhaps a reference to Ents?

Some think that the song is actually a reference to Lord of the Rings. I remain skeptical yet open to the notion. It is fun to think that this may have been what Page and Plant were thinking about when they crafted one of the greatest rock songs of all time. I think the mystery is rather fun... and I would rather not know the truth. After all, the band apparently had to issue a statement denying the song was influenced by Tolkien in any way. Nonethless.... we can all come to our own conclusions regardless. I suppose art means something different to everyone... that is the beauty of it... the subjectivity. So we can all believe what we want.

Slannesh
02-16-05, 12:10 AM
The biggest problem with "National Geographic" type shows is they get crap ratings since they only appeal to a very small audience. While I definitely don't agree with all of the antics of Steve Irwin and the others they do get ratings which at the end of the day is really all the network cares about.

With any luck they'll pass on their enthusiasm for herps and perhaps educate the public a bit in the process... Those shows are for joe blow average channel surfer, not people who are already passionate about reptiles in general. Now that I think about it I can't really remember when I saw a 'facts only' style documentary on any subject on pretty much any channel. They all do re-enactments or dramatized footage now

nareptiles
02-16-05, 02:10 AM
What people will do for ratings ,I am suprised that he is not bitten more often they way he dances all around the snakes.I have had and still have Venomous snakes and have always been very careful with them and still managed to get bit from a Monacle Cobra ,people have to realize these snakes can bite you quicker then you can blink your eye.

Rimshot
02-16-05, 02:14 AM
i just recently saw one of his newer programs, he was searching for a reticulated python in the jungle, he found it, but the snake was not interested in him, so he grabs the snake and pretends like it gonna constrict him, meanwhile the snake was just lying there, he had to pull the snake on top of him to get the "effect". he is a loser, steve irwin got him beat any day of the week

joey
02-16-05, 11:11 AM
I think it would be great if someone grabbed Austin by his leg and dragged him all over the desert while sticking a camera in his face!

I kept cheering the snake on hoping it would nail that jerk.

HeatherRose
02-16-05, 11:14 AM
I kept cheering the snake on hoping it would nail that jerk.


Me too...but then I felt bad...but soon I didn't anymore :p

Double J
02-16-05, 11:33 AM
Is it just me... or does Austin Stevens look like Steve Irwin after a 4-month coke bender?

orko
02-16-05, 11:43 AM
i have to admit, while entertaining, austin is totally disrespecting nature. that whole sequence with the cobra was totally unnecessary and disruptive. at least irwin doesn't blatantly taunt the poor bugger and then say, "holy f**K i've been bitten!" like it was never gonna happen. holy cow, you're right double j - i think that is irwin on a bit of a bender:)
derek i

dank7oo
02-16-05, 01:51 PM
Ahahaha.

Jason

JAdkins2451
02-16-05, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by Double J
Is it just me... or does Austin Stevens look like Steve Irwin after a 4-month coke bender?

LMAO, I thought the same thing, but he actulley does look like him..:D

chas*e
02-16-05, 06:42 PM
Go for it brutha...get that shot..lol..even if it kills ya..love to see it. I would watch that every day
PS.. The people who bash those guys like Irwin,Barr,and Bredle are..just jealous and don't have the Balls or Cash to do it themselves or we would be watching them hang their babies above crocs..lol..get a life

Gary D.
02-16-05, 06:42 PM
For the sake of continuity of the threads I will copy and past my recent Austin Stevens remarks here aswell.

What I like about O'Shea and Barr is their shows are never about them, they're about the animals. And even though Irwin and Bredl are the focal points of their respective shows, they definately know what they're talking about...

But the greatest disapointment of the night went to Austin Stevens "the snake master". What crap was that!!!???!!! An aledgedly knowledgeable herpetologist on a reptile specific show spewing off about how a 20' retic can eat a full grown human (namely him). That show has an awsome camera man and great visual direction, and with his continual scrambling up and falling out of trees with snake in hand, etc. But he is without doubt the stupidest and most careless herpetologist out there...

From the time Stevens was in college he was an idiot herper keeping hots loose in his dorm as was shown in that same In search of the King Cobra show where he gets bit. Really as a herpetologist, he's a good photographer.

Diverdude1234
02-16-05, 07:36 PM
I enjoy all of these shows but i agree that the host's should pay a little more respect to the animals. I feel Rob Bredl is the best of them not as much because of how much he shows, but because the way he shows the animals. He dosnt grab them by the tale and swing them around, he just quickly pins them and grabs them firmly but cautiously behind the head. He dosnt go all hollywood like the other Hosts he just shows the animals as respectably as possible.
I belive this is the best (or closest to) you can get, because if you dont show hands on raction with the animals, you wont get ratings, and the show will be canceled, but if u go all hollywood you will get great ratings, but ur not showing respect to the animals that make your show what it is.
It is impossible to satisfy everyone, because everyone wants to see, and learn different things. The host cant talk about the real advanced parts of herptology without giving veiwers the base knowlege first (not all veiweres spend hours on reading about reptiles). You cant have a super advanced show in just one hour, there is just too much subject matter to cover to give everyone the base knolege to learn about some of the more intresting things like genetics, and heratage.
This is just my two cents, if you dont agree with me thats ok, its just my opinion

P.s_ just ignore all the spelling mistakes (please)

munchy
02-16-05, 07:49 PM
Originally posted by Diverdude1234
I enjoy all of these shows but i agree that the host's should pay a little more respect to the animals. I feel Rob Bredl is the best of them not as much because of how much he shows, but because the way he shows the animals. He dosnt grab them by the tale and swing them around, he just quickly pins them and grabs them firmly but cautiously behind the head.
yes i really love how he uses his "jiggah" for venomous snakes. smashing it down on the back of their neck/head with what appears to be pretty good force. also how he catches pythons that he knows are big enough to wrap him up and when they do, dropping to the ground and rolling around on them with all his weight to get them off.

Nicky
02-16-05, 08:03 PM
I remember watching ahwile back when he jumped out the helicopter ended up in a river somehow and appeared to be struggling for his life, he got back to shore, next frame he was dry and trying to get down a valley by climbing down a waterfall ends up sliping and slides down it but gets up before the big drop:(, finally gets down thier and is jumping from big boulder to big boulder, randomly slips and falls ( dying of laughter at this point) , climbs up a huge tree to find a amestalyn( I know I know horrible spelling) python, gets up the tree and goes to jump to the next branch, totally overshoots and falls ( saddly he had a harness and rope) screamed in a high pitched voice, got back up and then he started handling, very roughly one of australlia's rariest pythons, geez now thiers a professional for you.
:rolleyes: Blah, I hope he tries to show how fast black mambas are next:D;)
Kayla

daver676
02-16-05, 08:09 PM
"Just gotta wait for that stri..ouch! Oh I've been bitten guys! I've been bitten! $#%^!!"

Priceless.

Artemis
02-17-05, 08:01 AM
hahahaha It comes on in Hi Def, and I got a big fattie dlp for my anniversary, so bring the snakemaster on. Staged or not, its cool to watch!!

Art

zero&stich
02-17-05, 11:36 AM
After watching that vid, he reminds me of the Aussie lunitic running around. My biggest peeve with those two nimrods is they don't use a hook. Worst fear I can think of is some young kid who doesn't know better runs off looking for a venomous snake and tries like these two yahoo's, by eaither holding the snake in place by its tail or the alternative, the head. Bare-handed. Both Urwin and Austin are definately not good role modles for the young audience.