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gargoyle
01-25-05, 10:27 AM
Do I need special papers to bring colubrids across from the USA? Specifically some kings and hognose.

michaelman25
01-25-05, 11:23 AM
i wouldn' think so becasue they are so common in the wild

i could be wrong though

ydnic
01-25-05, 12:03 PM
LOL - because they are common in the wild - thats a good one :)

gargoyle
01-25-05, 12:21 PM
So does anyone know the answer from personal experience?

Removed_2815
01-25-05, 12:41 PM
Originally posted by michaelman25
i wouldn' think so becasue they are so common in the wild

i could be wrong though
:rolleyes: Oh man...

Gargoyle,
They are not CITES animals so there is no special documentation required, however, they do need to be inspected prior to entering Canada and you will need a US Fish and Wildlife import/export license.
Ryan

Here's an article that Roy wrote on the subject:
"For Canadians taking animals into or out of the USA
If you are taking animals across the border in a car, you need to apply for and obtain this US fish and wildlife IMPORT EXPORT license... and yes also the exception from designated port permit if you have more than just a few animals.

You must phone US F&W in advance and arrange for an inspection 48 hrs before you cross. An agent will be dispatched to the crossing of your choice(See the list of Border Ports) . You will be charged for the inspection. $55US standard, more if its CITES or outside of business hours. A 3-177 declaration will need to be completed at the time of the inspection. I recommend pre ordering this form from USF&W and filling them out ahead of time. It makes the wildlife agents happy and you are more likely to know the Scientific names, which must be shown on the declaration. It's also helpful to take a book with pictures to help verify the species.

If you are taking a lot of stuff into the US for personal delivery or to fly out of an American airport it may be considered a commercial shipment and this will also require a Customs Broker...I use PBB. (Peace Bridge Brokers)

Also, if you are taking CITES listed animals out of Canada you must first apply for and obtain a Canadian CITES Export permit. You will be required to prove legal origin to be granted this permit. Before crossing the border, you must first stop on the Canadian side and get Customs to validate it, otherwise it is not a legal CITES permit."

LINK (http://www.kingsnake.ca/imp_exp.html)

gargoyle
01-25-05, 02:08 PM
WOW that seems like a lot of work, just to get a couple hognose,since I can't find any around here....I might rethink this problem. I've had a bad experience with a shipper and an animal got "lost" so I don't want to go that route. Other than hitting the PC show which I always do. any ideas about finding these, or other ways (other people doing this already) of getting animals here?