Enchi Pastels??

[CamHanna]

I was just cruising 'round web and discovered the Enchi Pastel!
Does anyone have these in Canada? Know what they go for in the US? A little more info on Enchi Pastels is on www.sweball.com

Thanks
Cam

[malaysianbloods]

I checked the price out because i was hopeing to get one in the future. This is what he told me
QOUTE:Hi,
> >The price is approx. 12.000 USD each. If you´re interested in buying from
> >me, I pay for the shipping.
> >Regards,
> >Lars
Hope this helps you.

[mykee]

Nice looking snake, but for that kind of money (and I'm assuming that's in USD also), I'll happily stick to my Graziani's.

[malaysianbloods]

Sorry I forgot to put what currency, but yes Mykee you are right it is in USD.

[NiagaraReptiles]

They have only recently been imported into the US, and none in Canada yet, as far as I know. Pete Kahl got a few a couple months back. I don't think they should be called a pastel just because they are yellow..........they are a pattern mutation as well. I really like the "supers".

JonK

[CamHanna]

They are gorgeous snakes. Hopefully someone will bring some in to Canada soon. At $12000 I'm afraid it won't be me, but if the price comes down a little I may be in the market. Maybe my new favorite morph.

[BoAddict]

not to sound like a d*ck but why do you hope someone will bring them into canada soon?

if you cant afford them now you wont when they come here as the price will be just as high since there are none here or not very many.

it will be many years b4 the price will drop here or there so.... again why hope some come here soon

Mike

sorry bout my negative attitude but it doesnt make any sense to wish something here that you cant afford now, if you want it get it or start saving for it.

where is this guy located i didnt see it anywhere on his site

[Bartman]

Maybe Sweden? Hence sweball..jsut a guess :)

That is a sweet snake, but for 12 grand id rather get some mojavies or something.

[malaysianbloods]

He is located in sweeden ( I'm pretty sure anywasys). But the reason some one would wish for them two come in to Canada might be because if they would and breed them make more money from selling them, then they will bring in other morphs as well. That may not be as expensive and a person who is starting out can afford. If everything go's welll with my snakes I wouldn't mind getting one in a couple years. Then again that just IMO.

[CamHanna]

Sorry for not being more specific.

I would hope to see them in Canada so that in two or three years when I can actually consider getting one *fingers crossed* they will already be established here and available. If they stay in Sweden and only a few elite US collections then I will likely have a hard time getting a hold of one even with the money. Additionally, the price won’t level out until Enchis become a little more common, which won’t happen unless new breeders (maybe Canadians) begin to produce them.

Plus, I wouldn’t mind seeing some Enchi photos every now and then on sSNAKESs.

Cam

[CHRISANDBOIDS14]

Originally posted by Bartman
That is a sweet snake, but for 12 grand id rather get some mojavies or something.

Good luck getting ONE mojave for that.

C.

[malaysianbloods]

I''m pretty sure he could get one mojave for that but most likely not two. At least that is what the guy at the calagary show said he would be selling them for (12,000 CND). Then again you never no his price might have went up.

[boa]

That pastel ball is sweet 1 of a kind thanks for sharing.

[BornboreD]

They don't impress me for some reason.........*shrugs*

I'd rather have a Graziani Line Super for that money. Maybe I'm crazy though....... :D

Colin

[malaysianbloods]

The main reason I like them so much is because of the pattern mutation as well as the color mutation. The main difference IMO is the banding on them and I would love to have a banded genetic but they are close to 25000 (I think). So I would rather buy a enchi pastle and get the banded along with the sweet color.

[CHRISANDBOIDS14]

Lol, that guy said 15K, not 12. And mojaves went up anyways because they proved out to produce Lucies.

C.

[zero&stich]

Maybe it is just me, but I don't see visualy why it would be classified as a mutation? What I see are nice normal pastels with nice patterns.

Can someone help me out if I missed something? :D

[CHRISANDBOIDS14]

Mutation? Did you mean pattern mutation?

It is a pattern mutation because of the genetically recurring banding that occurs on the sides of the snake. Compare the pattern of a normal and one of those, and you will see these are banded.

C.

[malaysianbloods]

No CHRISANDBOIDS14 he did tell me that they are 12k not 15k so unless you emailed him within the last 2 weeks and he told you different then your mistakin. But CHRISANDBOIDS14 is right about the pattern mutation.

[varanus69]

the stinger bee is very nice, but as far as the other enchi balls go in my opinion they rank right up there with any other pastel... blah at best (( at least as adults)).. but they do go nnicely into other projects which is the only reason i would buy pastels in the first place. IMO ( other people feel different i'm sure) they are soon to be a dime a dozen with so many people breeding them. Some people might get a little ruffled about that but remember thats only my opinion and isn't worth much

[mykee]

Varanus, Varanus, Varanus. Have you learned nothing from Favelle's mini-novels that he occasionally posts on here about supply and demand, capitalism and the ecomony? Pastels will NEVER be a dime a dozen. For every person willing to pay $2500 for a female, there are 100 willing to pay $2000, and 10000 willing to pay $1000 and so on and so on and so on until every hobbiest and/or breeder in the world that wants a pastel, can have a pastel ball.

[TheMan]

Well I can't wait to get a pastel. That's one sweet looking ball IMO not to mention that there is so many other morphs it can be crossed with. And I don't see pastel females going for less than $2000 anytime soon...

[zero&stich]

Mutation? Did you mean pattern mutation?

It is a pattern mutation because of the genetically recurring banding that occurs on the sides of the snake. Compare the pattern of a normal and one of those, and you will see these are banded.


I had to take a second look. I see what you mean now bout the patterns. It is the same pattern over and over. I guess I should get my eyes checked again. :(

[CHRISANDBOIDS14]

Originally posted by malaysianbloods
No CHRISANDBOIDS14 he did tell me that they are 12k not 15k

Actually, I was talking to him and asked him the question about how much he would be selling his mojaves for, and you were standing beside me, so unless you asked the exact same question right after me, and he told you different, then I cant see him having told you 12K.

Zero: No worries, I didnt notice it at first but after looking at the pics for a few mins I noticed.

C.

[CHRISANDBOIDS14]

Ooo. Sid was talking about Enchi Pastels, and im talking Mojaves. Thats why we are on different pages.

C.