whats all out there

[letters]

just wondering could all you nice people give me some advise, if im planning to breed in the future and i currently own a normal phase jcp, what type of rarity jcp should i invest in? i.e (leapord, dimond, jag, ect......)and also could some one post the different pics of each, and where is a good canadain website to purchase such a snake?

[Jeff_Favelle]

Diamond's and Jags AREN'T JCP's. They are Diamonds and Jags, with a Jaguar being a Coastal Carpet morph. There are no rare JCP's. Check that; the rarest JCP is a wild caught JCP. Not to be had anywhere outside of Down Under.

[letters]

so i can only breed normal jungles and hope to get something new? I'm not sure on this process its something that highly interests me! I'm looking to buy a snake to breed with my female in the future to make a new type of jcp or at least try too! is this possible? and again where would be a informative website where i can purchase such a snake? sorry to sound repetitive, i'm just really curious i got confused with the coastals and jungles!

[chameo_liz]

jungles are jungles, you can get colour variations from dull to bright. what i get out of your first post is that you want to create hybrids, is that what you are talking about?

Kris

[letters]

yah kind of...i know that there is no morphs as of yet? but is the possibility there with this type of breed?

[chameo_liz]

you can hybridize all you want they will still be hybrids and are not popular with very many keepers. Just breed to another jungle and enjoy what happens with the experience.

Kris

[letters]

sounds good. thanks for the advice and you never know i may get something different!

[Jeff_Favelle]

You won't be able to sell any hybrids for 1/2 of what the true blooded ones will be worth.

[BoidKeeper]

In time Jungle albino hets will make it to the US if they haven't already and then they'll come to Canada. No point in trying to cross a Jungle with anything.
Cheers,
Trevor

[Ben Nickelson]

There is already so much variability with jungles I don't know why you would need any thing else. There are stripes, 50/50's, high yellows, classics, whites...the list goes on. There are even different ranges of yellow, I have seen nearly orange, canary yellows, flourescent/ highlighter yellows and some very atractive brown jungles.

Look at the variability in my collection,
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v178/BenNick/2004_1226Stelpflug00051.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v178/BenNick/Picture_0040.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v178/BenNick/2004_1226Christmass040015.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v178/BenNick/DCP_0275.jpg
Think of the possibilities!

If you really need a morph, get into coastals...there are many types of Jags, Tigers, Tri-stripes, and natural variability (like jungles).

[letters]

Thanks ben thats the information i 've been looking for, that's all i asked in the first place (not to be rude). Where can i buy any of these variations, or is it just chance through breeding?

[Ben Nickelson]

A lot of the different possibilities you just have search for the kind of stock your looking for. The best way to get what you want is to find a breeder that has stock with the attributes you like and buy young from them.

I know Jeff has had variety of different jungles produced in his collection.

[letters]

Where are some good spots or sites to look for these different tpyes (striped, orange, high yellow ect..)?

[Jeff_Favelle]

Just look at all the pics in this patricular forum going back 3 years and you'll see pretty much every Jungle imaginable. No need to make work for yourself and look any further.

But one could always type in "Jungle Carpet Python" into google and see what comes up.................

[ssshell]

wow!!! that was kinda harsh...i understand that you are just trying to learn as much as you can about your new snake, i am in the same boat as you are! seeing that i am also a new snake owner! and chances are you already went to google to search for info...but hey theres never to much to learn and any new information is good information! a good website is http://www.a1pythons.com/jungle.html...i'm not sure on genetics and breeding but someone should be able to help you.

[Jeff_Favelle]

What exactly was "harsh" ssshell? I talked to Chris "letters" through email and he never thought that suggesting a google search was harsh. Maybe you should explain why you think it is. Sorry if it seems like an obvious thing that everyone does, but I get TONS of emails every day from people that have never even used google.

Hmmm............

[letters]

huh?

[ssshell]

sorry i just found you sounded a bit rude...i've been asking alot of the same questions like letters has and i've gotten a lot of people not taking me seriously i'm also just curious and he has been one of the most helpful people towards me so far so it just kinda bothered me because it kinda sounded like he wasn't been taken seriously either. in my eyes the first place i would look for information about my snake is in google or yahoo etc.

[Jeff_Favelle]

in my eyes the first place i would look for information about my snake is in google or yahoo etc.


That's all well and good. But what you do is not what everyone does. Lots of people are not as Net saavy. Not even close. Chris knows that everyone is trying to help him as much as we can. But just because not everything is spelled out or a 5,000-word novella isn't written in every response, doesn't mean that everyone isn't being curtious and/or helpful. Ask a question, get an answer. Don't complain about the answer. If you don't like it, wait and see if another answer comes along that you do like.

[letters]

no need to fight guys

[ssshell]

your right there is no reason to fight and i'm not saying what i do is what everyone does...all he asked for was a good canadian website twice and if your into reptiles i'm sure you can name a couple that would give him some good information instead you tell him to go into google and look for himself chances are he's already done that and even if he hasn't would it hurt to give him a coulple address's anyway?

[Jeff_Favelle]

Actually, I was the first to reply to his first 2 questions and I answered that for him and cleared it up.

As for Canadian websites explaining the differences between the 3 or 4 species he was asking about, I don't know of any, and I've been in the scene for the last 12 years, and have owned 3 of the 4 species in question.

I'm not fighting either. Just because someone doesn't agree or has a difference of opinion, this is all of a sudden an attack? or a fight?

Holy moly...........

[ssshell]

whatever i don't really care about this i just thought i was standing up for someone like myself thats all! sorry if i offended you!

[Jeff_Favelle]

No worries ssshell! :) Its hard to tell how people are really talking over internet forums and stuff. I totally agree that we should be helping Chris as much as we can. No offense bro. :-)