green tree frogs and anoles?

[Gamblingferret]

Could you put a green tree frog or two in with 2 anoles? The habitat is a 30g tank, 3 hiding caves, 5 shade plants(2 are hang on the side plants) and a water dish. the bottom is jungle mix terranium soil. there are several climbing branches and i spray the tank 2 or more times a day. there are also 2 50w heat lights and 1 night light.

[marisa]

No. Green Tree Frogs and anoles do not have the same husbandry requirments.

Anoles are a basking lizard who appreciate far hotter temps than a green tree frog would tolerate. Green tree frogs can live happily at room temp.

Mixing species is never a great idea usually.

Marisa

[LZRDKING]

Originally posted by Gamblingferret
Could you put a green tree frog or two in with 2 anoles? The habitat is a 30g tank, 3 hiding caves, 5 shade plants(2 are hang on the side plants) and a water dish. the bottom is jungle mix terranium soil. there are several climbing branches and i spray the tank 2 or more times a day. there are also 2 50w heat lights and 1 night light.

i had a green tree frog,an anole some other lizards and a chinese water dragon together and there was never any problems


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[Bartman]

The link doesnt work but as Marisa said, anoles need warmer temperatures so that means you weren't giving the anoles proper temps. This could and most likely WILL lead to future problems and even if it doesnt the reptile will be freezing cold and uncomfortable.

Just dont do it Gamblingferret, its not worth it.

[LZRDKING]

i just fixed the link, let me know if you can see it. right click and select show picture


i must disagree with you since i had the tank and the anoles were very happy . the tree frogs sang every morning and the anoles were very active. it was a very harmonious tank. i had it together for 4 years...

[Davey312]

i guess the anoles told you they were having a good time in the tank? having all the different animals in one tank isnt a good idea.. they all need different humifity levels, temeratures and overall setup of the tank... they may be alive.. but they're probably not doing as well as they could be doing.. or SHOULD be doing... what worked for you, won't work for everyone.. so you probably shouldn't suggest this type of reptile care to begginers.
Davey

[LZRDKING]

Originally posted by Davey312
i guess the anoles told you they were having a good time in the tank? .
Davey

no they didnt speak to me davey. but i could tell by their behavior that they were doing well

they all need different humifity levels, temeratures and overall setup of the tank

i only put in animals that were from similar environments.

i wasnt suggesting a collared lizard and a salamander be in the same tank. but 2 species of tropicals can certainly live in the same environment, thatis what they do in the wild isnt it??

[Davey312]

yeah.. you're right.. in the wild.. but it's not the same when they're confined to a tank... im basicly just trying to say.. it worked for you.. but you shouldnt suggest it to others.. because it's not the 'proper' way to take care of reptiles.
Davey

[LZRDKING]

Originally posted by Davey312
yeah.. you're right.. in the wild.. but it's not the same when they're confined to a tank... im basicly just trying to say.. it worked for you.. but you shouldnt suggest it to others.. because it's not the 'proper' way to take care of reptiles.
Davey

i would think that a properly built tank should be an adequate recreation of the wild, with the exception of the large faces looking in...lol
and they should thrive as well as in the open.

i was just saying what i had not saying he should do it.but with what i did, there was a lot of maintainance and regulation involved.

i dont know what your "proper" care of reptiles is davey, but i know i did a good job raising my lizards , i took care of them properly and for you to suggest differently to a new member is kinda rude

[Davey312]

proper care meaning lizards receive the proper humidity, lighting, temperatures and room they need... and you being a new member has nothing to do with anything...btw, my account was created like a week ago maybe.. you have 15 posts.. i have 5... and im not being rude... im trying to explain that keeping different species together is a bad idea.. to help you.. and thats what this site is about.. helping.. but obviously you dont want help.. you've got everything figured out.. sry i tried to give help u out..wont happen again
Davey

[LZRDKING]

Originally posted by Davey312
proper care meaning lizards receive the proper humidity, lighting, temperatures and room they need... and you being a new member has nothing to do with anything...btw, my account was created like a week ago maybe.. you have 15 posts.. i have 5... and im not being rude... im trying to explain that keeping different species together is a bad idea.. to help you.. and thats what this site is about.. helping.. but obviously you dont want help.. you've got everything figured out.. sry i tried to give help u out..wont happen again
Davey



i joined the board for help davey as well as free discussion. i never said i got it all figured out. sorry if i came off that way. but i think i had a good healthy properly maintained tank since they survived under my care for 4 years and you did suggest that i wasnt taking care of them right.

i do believe that different species that live in the same environment is not a bad idea, because if they are in the same environment they will receive the proper humidity, lighting and temeratures condusive to their well being...i am not talking about putting desert lizards in with ones from a tropical environment.

i am not trying to be arguementative with you, i am just going by my practical experience

[HeatherRose]

i wasnt suggesting a collared lizard and a salamander be in the same tank. but 2 species of tropicals can certainly live in the same environment, thatis what they do in the wild isnt it??

As Marisa and Davey are saying, this is a bad idea. Both animals need different requirements, and along with that, both creatures carry different kinds of bacteria...

In the wild this is fine, but confined to a tank, it is not.

Lizardking, just because you were able to pull it off and get lucky, doesn't mean it's a good idea in any way to recommend it to others. As said above when we keep animals in captivity, certain things like bacteria and illness have to be taken into consideration. A 30g glass tank is NOT the wild.

[Double J]

Here is an excerpt from one of *my* replies to a thread of a similar topic...

"anoles and green tree frogs..... again.... though they do come from the same geographical region, they inhabit far differnet *microclimates.* The treefrogs generally inhabit cooler shadier areas during they day out of the sun, while the anole are out basking directly in the sun, chasing around insects in the warmth. Creating both of these microclimates in such a small tank is next to impossible. The needs of one species would be compromised for another either way. It is far easier just to stick to one species. You will have far fewere headaches, and no dead animals. "

[Double J]

Here are some links to some good websites that should curb anybody here from mixing species as well:

http://www.livingunderworld.org/amphibianArticles/article0007.shtml

http://www.caudata.org/cc/articles/Mixing_disasters.shtml

[LZRDKING]

Originally posted by HeatherRose
As Marisa and Davey are saying, this is a bad idea. Both animals need different requirements, and along with that, both creatures carry different kinds of bacteria...

In the wild this is fine, but confined to a tank, it is not.

Lizardking, just because you were able to pull it off and get lucky, doesn't mean it's a good idea in any way to recommend it to others. As said above when we keep animals in captivity, certain things like bacteria and illness have to be taken into consideration. A 30g glass tank is NOT the wild.

i understand....

i wasnt recommending , just stating my experience which seems to be wrong...

thanks heather

[LZRDKING]

Originally posted by Double J
Here is an excerpt from one of *my* replies to a thread of a similar topic...

"anoles and green tree frogs..... again.... though they do come from the same geographical region, they inhabit far differnet *microclimates.* The treefrogs generally inhabit cooler shadier areas during they day out of the sun, while the anole are out basking directly in the sun, chasing around insects in the warmth. Creating both of these microclimates in such a small tank is next to impossible. The needs of one species would be compromised for another either way. It is far easier just to stick to one species. You will have far fewere headaches, and no dead animals. "

oh , i see now thats an intelligent reason.

i always thought my tank was really cool. the anoles out by day and the tree frogs did their thing at night.

i guess i did get lucky for all that time without any disease..

thanks doubleJ