leo cross?

[kanedotca]

my breeding group has among others a patternless albino female and a jungle male who is so close to a full stripe.
i was wondering if anybody has crossed something like this yet. i am trying to figure out what pattern might come out. the big question is whether or not "patternless" is line bred or actually on a gene. i know they won't throw any albino babies, all will be het. but will the pattern be that of the father or will they come out "normal"

kane
2:4 leopard
1:6:7 viper
1:0 AFT
1:0 red eared slider

[Tim and Julie B]

You will get quite a mix of genes in there. Genetically speaking they would all be het for the 3 traits mentioned (patternless, albino, jungle). My theory would be that some would hatch with abberant or jungle type markings.

For something really confusing, if you breed the babies together from the above pairing you'll get:

1.5625% WT(without trait-basically "normal phase")
3.125% Het. jungle
1.5625% Homozygous jungle,
3.125% Het. patternless,
6.25% Het. patternless, Het. jungle,
3.125% Het. patternless, Homozygous jungle,
1.5625% Homozygous patternless,
3.125% Homozygous patternless, Het. jungle,
1.5625% Homozygous patternless, Homozygous jungle(not likely,it would be patternless not jungle since the traits don't mix)
3.125% Het. albino,
6.25% Het. albino, Het. jungle,
3.125% Het. albino, Homozygous jungle,
6.25% Het. albino, Het. patternless,
12.5% Het. albino, Het. patternless, Het. jungle,
6.25% Het. albino, Het. patternless, Homozygous jungle,
3.125% Het. albino, Homozygous patternless,
6.25% Het. albino, Homozygous patternless, Het. jungle,
3.125% Het. albino, Homozygous patternless, Homozygous jungle,
1.5625% Homozygous albino,
3.125% Homozygous albino, Het. jungle,
1.5625% Homozygous albino, Homozygous jungle,
3.125% Homozygous albino, Het. patternless,
6.25% Homozygous albino, Het. patternless, Het. jungle,
3.125% Homozygous albino, Het. patternless, Homozygous jungle,
1.5625% Homozygous albino, Homozygous patternless,
3.125% Homozygous albino, Homozygous patternless, Het. jungle,
1.5625% Homozygous albino, Homozygous patternless, Homozygous jungle(not likely, as I doubt that the patternless albino would show any signs of abberancy)

Hope that was fun!!!:) lol

Julie

[RazzleMcDazzle]

What do homozygous mean? And how can a patternless and jungle mix? Isn't the jungle morph a pattern? And logic says either it's patterned or patternless, doesn't it?

[DragnDrop]

Homozygous means the trait is visible - both parents contributed a gene. In heterozygous only one parent contributed a gene so the outcome is 'het', the gene is present but the trait isn't visible.
Patternless and jungle can exist at the gene level, but the patternless will 'cover up' the visible jungle pattern once the animal matures. You can see the jungle pattern when it hatches - the brown patternless splotches will be visible. Once the yellow takes over and the splotches vanish, you can't see the jungle anymore, but it is technically still there, genes are present and can be passed on to the offspring.

[Tim and Julie B]

please remove this

[Tim and Julie B]

1.5625% Homozygous patternless, Homozygous jungle(not likely,it would be patternless not jungle since the traits don't mix)


Thanks Hilde:) I did mention that above, but with all that info maybe it got missed.

Julie