has anyone heard of...

[sam4snakes]

problems with dumerils having deformed or no tongues?? I have one that I have never seen his tongue flick. I was asking a local "expert" about this and he said that there is a problem with Dumerils being inbred and this affecting their tongues. He strikes at mice out of fear"i guess" but I have not gotten him to eat. The husbandry is right on. I have other snakes so in great condition, so I do know how to keep them, I am positive that husbandry is not an issue here. He is about 4 months and I have had him for about 1 month. He has eaten before as evidenced by the fact that he has shed and deficated since I have has him.
Any help is greatly appreciated.

Happy New Year.

[sam4snakes]

One thing to add, I do already have an appointment with a herp vet on Monday, just wondering if any of you all have heard of this.

Thanks

[Piers]

I've never herd of something like that in dumerils. People talk of dumerils being inbred, but i've not seen any real evidence of it. I've been breeding them for about 8 years and all the babies are born normal. I've talked to other breeders and they seem to have all normal babies too.
If your animal was born without a tongue I'd say thats more to with chance than inbreeding.
Dumerils like a nice hot spot 95% + and to hide. this is most inportant for babies.
New born dumerils are known to be problem feeders, I've had some go 3+months before feeding. some will feed once and not feed for a few more months.
Any new born snake should have at lest (very lest) 3 meals before its sold. Dumerils should have more like 6-10 meals before they are sold.
Piers

[Jeff_Favelle]

Dumerils like a nice hot spot 95%


95% of what?

[ssscales]

I've never seen this problem in any of my Dums or any Dums.

[BOAS_N_PYTHONS]

JEFF:

LOL, might be Fahrenheit.

Or since its the holiday season 95% proof, that grow some hair on the chest :D

Tony

[Jeff_Favelle]

95% would make you go blind, but what a way to go!!!!!!!!!! ;)

[bighillreptiles]

I have a glass of that Rum lmaf Paul

[Piers]

Oh I guess I had booze on the brain! so unlike me!
Yeah I meant fehrenheit, sorry If it got a little confusing Jeff,lol
piers

[dtocher]

Originally posted by Jeff_Favelle
95% would make you go blind, but what a way to go!!!!!!!!!! ;)

Naw. Everclear pure grain alcohol has two versions. The 151 proof and the 190 (aka 95% alcohol) proof. I've most definately had straight shots of the 190 proof kind. Not saying I liked it, and not saying it was healthy, but I can still see. :)

Real fun to cut up watermelon and let it soak in the Everclear... alcoholic fruits!

[C.ADAMANTEUS]

Originally posted by dtocher
Naw. Everclear pure grain alcohol has two versions. The 151 proof and the 190 (aka 95% alcohol) proof. I've most definately had straight shots of the 190 proof kind. Not saying I liked it, and not saying it was healthy, but I can still see. :)

Real fun to cut up watermelon and let it soak in the Everclear... alcoholic fruits!
yeah, but everclear tastes like a cotton ball.
the "Fruit punch" work though LOL
Rick:D

[BoidKeeper]

Alchool is 95% but the closest place to buy it is Quebec. I hear that people cut the top off a water melon and dump a 13oz bottle into and leave it sit over night. Imagine what that would be like coming back up. ewwww
Cheers,
Trevor

[pythonmdk]

YOu can get 95% alcohol in quebec? What type, is it everclear? I need some strong % for a drink I want to make but thought I had to go to the states to get it. SWEET. I JUst have to go to quebec, nice.