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daiyoukai
12-17-04, 09:29 PM
http://gallery.****************/data/12746blackball.jpg

Seen this a few time on the net, always the picture. On kingsnake the "owner" says " Black ball python produced by BHB enterprises.This is the result of breeding cinnamon pastel to another cinnamon pastel."

But being the skeptic I am I think this picture was photoshoped. I dont know, something about it just seems to black, and the bedding around it seems to have some "run off" of color. I dont tyhink I have any photo editing programs but I'll check, can anyone brightin this picture up alil to see for sure?

thanks. Im about 80% sure it's a hoax but you never know.

daiyoukai
12-17-04, 09:30 PM
Oh no, dont tell me you cant link pet hobbyist pictures here?

zero&stich
12-17-04, 09:34 PM
Not if its linked to KS in any shape or form. Try photobucket.com but i think you might need to register.

mykee
12-17-04, 11:19 PM
This 'black ball' that you speak of is not a photo-shopped pic, it/they is/are the real deal. The name of this morph(s) is/are the "Super Cinnamon" or "Black Pastel" depending on who you chose to believe. They are the result of two "Cinnamon" balls produced by Greg Graziani OR two "Labyrinth" balls produced by GCR.

CHRISANDBOIDS14
12-18-04, 12:23 AM
Just change the ***'s to "****************" and there you have it. That is a very interesting snake. Mykee, who is GCR? Thanks.

C.

Edit: Woops, duh that obviously wont show, Type "p e t h o b b y i s t . c o m" without the spaces.

hhw
12-18-04, 01:24 AM
GCR = Gulf Coast Reptiles

NiagaraReptiles
12-18-04, 04:53 AM
There were/are wild caught "black balls" floating around the for a little while, but they usually had messed up faces (upturned snouts). I believe Brian (BHB) was the first to produce the super cinny, however. I saw it first hand in Daytona this year (I think Corey held it)........if it's photoshop'd, it sure prints out nice ;)

JonK

Piers
12-18-04, 05:02 AM
Morph king is calling them " the supers" black balls and the "others" het black balls!
No mention of cinamon
Piers

Jeff_Favelle
12-18-04, 06:56 AM
Don't forget these guys that Dave and Tracy have. Sometimes they are very very dark as well.

http://www.vpi.com/4VPIInventory/VPIPriceList/PatlessBallPics/TwoPatless(9Jun02)640pix.jpg

nita
12-18-04, 12:03 PM
VPI's patternless are gorgeous, but mom and dad look like normals so they would be recessive right?

CHRISANDBOIDS14
12-18-04, 01:13 PM
Thanks hhw.

Man, alot of people have these "Black balls" or "super whatevers".........Lol, too many names for them. I think its kind of ridiculous actually. Quick question too, what does a cinnamon pastel go for? Thanks.

C.

snakehunter
12-18-04, 04:17 PM
Brian Sharp here in VA has produced some (I think) I have seen one of his at a show IT WAS GORGEOUS

mykee
12-19-04, 01:21 PM
Chris; $12,000-$15,000 USD. Haven't seen too many for sale this year.