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ydnic
12-13-04, 02:41 PM
Is there such a thing?

I`ve done some searching but can`t really seem to find more than bat boxes for catching and keeping...

joey
12-13-04, 02:48 PM
I don't think bats survive well in captivity.

chameo_liz
12-13-04, 03:05 PM
there are a few people breeding them but they arent very popular i will see if i can track anyone down still keeping and breeding them

Kris

CamHanna
12-13-04, 03:22 PM
I've heard that bats make good pets but have never seen them available or known anyone who keeps thems. I have been interested in them in the past but couldn't find anything about them in captivity. Let us know what you learn.

Siretsap
12-13-04, 03:25 PM
ask dracula ;)

Hummm but I guess it would be nice to raise a few bats, I do not know how brilliant they are, but maybe you could raise them to hunt the buggs that annoy us and then coma back in the house during the day.

joey
12-13-04, 03:26 PM
http://www.batworld.org/main/bats_pets.html

ydnic
12-13-04, 03:32 PM
Yes I can find a lot of info on house and keeping - but I don`t want wild caught too many things to worry about that way - I am interested in captive bred speciems - I would have no problem setting up a bat box and catching my own but this is not what I want to do - To me that would be just like going down south and catching a rattler because I like them - yesh I guess just keep your eyes and ears open and let me know if anyone finds anything - in Canada that is!

chas*e
12-13-04, 05:36 PM
BATS AS PETS


Bats are protected by law at many levels and therefore are not to be sold or kept as pets. Regulations govern the taking of bats from the wild, and any exchange between individuals or organizations. The transfer of bats is carefully regulated by the CDC. USDA permits from the Animal Health Inspection Service are required, and special permitting regulations now apply at the state level. Interstate laws also prohibit transport of these animals without special authority.

To keep bats in captivity one must be USDA licensed, and have the necessary state and local permits for native wildlife. Bats cannot be transported within the USA without a CDC permit. Bats can only be transferred to an institution that is bona fide conservation, zoological or scientific organization or registered establishments that have approved facilities and certified education programs

BUT, I guess you can get and own anything you like if you don't mind the "legal thing"

CamHanna
12-13-04, 05:45 PM
Native species are likely protected (and very difficult to keep fed) but what about tropical frugivores and carnivores?

ydnic
12-13-04, 06:25 PM
thanx chase I read that too - however this is for the US I am in Canada and follow provincial laws and I have nothing forbidding this as of yet

Katt
12-13-04, 06:42 PM
I hear the big turn off about them is their liquid and frequent poo.

chas*e
12-13-04, 06:44 PM
It is relatively the same and more strict for Canadian native species. In Ontario, Provincial regulations outweighs any local by-laws ...needing Zoo status and/or Conservation/Rescue organization.....but as I said before there are those that keep whatever they like if they can find it...legal or not, from 15 ft Croc in their apartment to a Komo Dragon too a little Bat in their bedroom.
I had a friend who had a Brown Bat some years ago and they stunk up his place something bad..crap all over the place, but the little guy was like a pet mouse. That's what they are really, a mouse with wings.

ydnic
12-13-04, 06:51 PM
I hear ya on that chase

I`m not looking at native species though - I`m lookng at others

Katt - yeah they are little pooper from what I have been reading - but what liquid do you mean?

HeatherRose
12-13-04, 06:56 PM
I know that there are one or two people on here that breed bats, maybe they'll see this thread. Otherwise you could do a search for Bats in the ssnakess.com search feature.

Bats are pretty neat, I used to have bat-houses when I lived out in the country.

Good luck!

ydnic
12-13-04, 07:03 PM
yeah i did the search and came up with nothing!

Thanx though!

joey
12-13-04, 07:45 PM
I think it would be sad to keep a bat as a pet. They are such excellentl flyers and hunters. They are also very social animals, like wolves.

just my 2cents.

j.

Siretsap
12-13-04, 08:00 PM
the liquid she is talking about is prob on vampire bats. All bats who feed on blood have to urinate at the same time they eat. Since blood has such little lutrience, they must take a lot of blood per feeding, and since they have such a little stomach and wouln't be able to fly with too much blood, their system "evolved" to a point, where as soon as they start licking the blood, they empty the water in it very quickly.

daiyoukai
12-14-04, 01:27 AM
I would mind a flying fox/fruit bat. they are cute

Scales Zoo
12-14-04, 01:54 AM
I've seen Fruit bats or flying foxes for sale, and knew people who kept them in Canada.

When we had built a large enclosure for some lizards that never came, we considered many things to put in there.

Don Patterson suggested bats, and thought he could probably find us some. I didn't really like the idea, mostly because of the runny poop thing.

Last Halloween we did a presentation about snakes for the Royal Sask Museum in Regina, and there was also someone from the university who specialized in bats. He kept a few bats, and brought them with him for his presentation. Keeping bats is possible, but a big pain in the rear.

Bats are really cool, but I think I'd rather keep them out in the wild eating bugs.

Ryan

Manitoban Herps
12-14-04, 07:54 AM
0I heard if you build bat houses in your area they will use them n the day and eat the bugs outside a night.

We have quite a few out our way and its alot of fun watching them swoop down by the porch light. And wehn we go fishing it just starts to get dark but you can still see and they come out to eat the bugs and swoop over your head.

They are neat, but probaly best in the wild.

djc3674
12-14-04, 09:20 AM
I hear the big turn off about them is their liquid and frequent poo.

lol..yeah. I can only think of one thing that bat guano is used for.

RepTylE
12-14-04, 10:44 AM
I worked around Jamacan Fruit Bats and they smell nasty. I was the only employee that wasn't afraid to go in there but the smell didn't make me hurry to go back in. Unless you have a small room to keep bats in I don't see how keeping them as pets would work.
It's not as if you could keep them in a birdcage. They are made for flying not hanging upside down on a perch all the time.
Of all the animals that people keep as pets, it's flying animals that make me sad to see stuck in cages.

joey
12-14-04, 11:37 AM
Originally posted by RepTylE

Of all the animals that people keep as pets, it's flying animals that make me sad to see stuck in cages.


...me too. :(

chas*e
12-14-04, 01:17 PM
Oh ya and EAT ...wow...If you think you buy a lot of crickets now...they eat hundreds and hundreds of crickets every week/daily depending on size and species
There are zoonotic diseases also that Bats carry..so if you can find one make sure it is CBB. and not WC