Who needs yellow?

[Jeff_Favelle]

Well, here's an update on that little axanthic-type Jungle I hatched out in the beginning of summer. Here's the old pic from a few months ago:



http://members.shaw.ca/internet_pics/axanthic_jungle.jpg

ANd here's a pic as of this morning. Getting close to 10 months, and still refuses to yellow up! Its neat because its different. Not my ideal Jungle, but I'm a sucker for the unique! :D

http://members.shaw.ca/internet_pics/axanthic_jungle_new.jpg

[morph]

You're not letting that go are you? :D If so I'm first in line:D

Man I really think that is gonna be something quite nice but we shall see. Fingers crossed

Scott

[Jeff_Favelle]

I'm not letting it go, especially to YOU! LOL! The last thing I want is Scotty strutting around the joint flashing a cool-a$$ Jungle in my face that I should have kept back, ha ha! J/K. ;)

You know though, you as well saw first hand how much variation occurs within even a single clutch, right? I wonder if you could line breed something like this. So maybe its not single recessive, but certainly you could breed for more silver and white than yellow, if that's what you wanted to do. Might be kinda neat. Imagine a Silver Jag/Jungle? I think I just wet myself.

How's the cycling coming along? Now you know what I mean when I said that before you know it, the season will be over and you'll be getting ready for the next! Ha ha! The first season is a killer and seems like it takes forever. Hatch a few hundred snakes and all of a sudden, the following season comes waaaay too soon!

:D

[marisa]

I like that one because of all the nice faded spots in the areas that are normally black! I think a line breeding jungles for more and wider yellow bands and more fading in the black areas.... until they have tiny black banding would be amazing, although maybe not possible.

Very neat!

Marisa

[Jeff_Favelle]

I think its totally possible Marisa. It would definitely take a long long time, and quite possibly some luck, but that would be a cool project.

I'm pairing these two up right now, in hopes to increase the yellow within the black. Soooo cool!

http://members.shaw.ca/galleryc/yellow_inside1.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/galleryc/yellow_inside2.jpg

[Tim_Cranwill]

Wicked snake, man! You're like a mad scientist over there with all of your ideas and crazy goings on! lol :D

[CHRISANDBOIDS14]

HOLY JEFF! Those(all three) are some(to quote you earlier) "COOL @$$" Jungles!!!!!!!!!!! That adult pair is amazing! I think im going to make my first Jeff Favelle purchase next year. Im broke right now after buying a few expensive balls, lol.

As far as that little one you showed, my view goes something like this. I think that that snake will either remain that way, possibly get a little more "axanthic-y", or else become a beautiful yellow like those two adults you posted. Also, as far as the line breeding, im sure it's entirely possible as thats how Mr. Stockwell produced his beautiful line of Nuclear Kenyan Sand Boas. And as you talked about "silver" banded jungles!! WOW those would be SWEET.

Thanks for sharing Jeff! Fingers crossed that the little one turns out to be something surreal and those adults produce something amazing. My hat goes off to you for such wonderful animals!

C.

[Jeff_Favelle]

Rubs his hands together....... "excellent" (Mr. Burns).

Thanks bro. :D

[Simon]

Sweet looking jungles~~

Hope that you'll be able to prove out to have anery/axanthic jungles for yourself.

Great looking snakes as always bud!!

[clint545]

Stupid question guys. The pet store in town has a jungle carpet for sale but haven't seen one like it before. Instead of the yellow, it's brown. Is that fairly common. Any jungles I've ever seen are the yellow. Nice pics by the way.

[Jeff_Favelle]

Baby Jungles start out ugly brown and white or brown and cream. After about 6 months, they start to take their true colours. A Jungle's BEST colouration is at 3 years of age.

But at this time of year, that Jungle in the pet store should be yellow by now. Most Jungles in North America are hatched out by June. Either its stunted, from a rare late clutch, super ugly, or its not a Jungle Carpet at all (misidentified/misrepresented). Weird. Imagine if it was a bredli and the guy didn't know it? Ha ha! :D

Chris man, no rush. I'll save a sweeet pair (trio? ...ha ha...) for ya! :D

Simon, thanx man! It won't be saleable as a genetic morph, but they'll still loook cool eh? ;)

[AmazingReptiles]

I love them,.....

[Ben Nickelson]

I have a similar gray jungle. He looked the same when he was that ones age. He is a year old and has kept his gray look. I own both of his sisters and they are very yellow. Sorry for the poor quality pics but here they are.
http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/507/6484Picture_0077.JPG
http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/507/6484Picture_0076.JPG

[Ben Nickelson]

By the way, those pics make him look a lot more yellow than he really is.

[clint545]

Thanks Jeff. The one at the store is fairly old, he's about 3 feet. I'm quite sure he is a jungle.

[Ryan and Katie]

Interesting jungle! Can't wait to see what it looks like in a year...

[Katt]

<laugh> If you guys really want a snake that looks like that, get a coastal!

I say clean it up and get it like black and white like a cal king. Now that be killer.

[Jeff_Favelle]

Only problem is, I had Coastals. Been there, done that. I don't want a 12 foot Carpet anymore. I'd rather have 3 Jungles in the space that a Coastal takes up.

[Katt]

12 ft carpet?! BRING IT ON!

I guess it depends, really cool 12ft carpet compared to some common yellow and blk snake? Hmmm, 12 FOOT CARPET!

[Jeff_Favelle]

Ummm....ok. Sure.

[Tim_Cranwill]

Originally posted by Katt
<laugh> If you guys really want a snake that looks like that, get a coastal!

I say clean it up and get it like black and white like a cal king. Now that be killer.

So, then you DO want a Coastal just not the way they look now? Do I understand what you're saying here? 6ft-12f and Yellow-White… seems like a pretty small difference to go from being “common” to “really cool” and “KILLER!”

Originally posted by Katt
12 ft carpet?! BRING IT ON!

I guess it depends, really cool 12ft carpet compared to some common yellow and blk snake? Hmmm, 12 FOOT CARPET!

I think sometimes it's good to live by the old "If you don't have anything nice to say..." rule... I don't know, maybe some people weren't taught that in elementary school. I was.

[D J N]

Wow I hope it never yellows up! that would be sweet at totally axanthic jcp would be amazing!

[Jeff_Favelle]

Thanx DJ!! I'm really getting attached to him! Now, I open the cage and look at the damn thing twice a day to make sure he doesn't have any yellow, LOL!

:)

[Tim_Cranwill]

You're gonna jinx it, man!!! lol :D :p

[Jeff_Favelle]

LOL, story of my life.............. ;)

[chas*e]

You always have the nicest JCPs there Jeff

[Ian]

That's pretty damn cool Jeff, how come I've never seen that one in person?

Cheers
Ian

[CHRISANDBOIDS14]

Originally posted by Tim_Cranwill
You're gonna jinx it, man!!! lol :D :p

Hahaha! Yeah, careful Jeff!

Jeff, do you have IJCP also? I dont know what I want to pick up, also I forget your prices for them(Jungles, and IJ's if you got them)? Thanks, and Best of luck for the up-comming season!

C.

[Jeff_Favelle]

Nah, I always steered clear of Indonesian stuff. Heck, it was a struggle just to get the damn Chondros going. I fought that one for a bit. Plus I simply don't like Irians. I don't chastize anyone else for liking them, I just personally would rather not own any Carpets than work with Irians. Who knows, I may get some again. Thanks for the nice words man!

Ha ha Chase, you're making me blush man!

Pee-on, if you wouldn't have your nose in your silly computer books all day long, you'd see some cool things over here once in a while. LOL! Oh yeah, HL-2 Deathmatch has 3 new LARGE maps man! They ROCK!!!

Peace.......... :)

[D J N]

Well ya know what they say Jeff a watched snake never yellows so keep lookin in on it :)

[Katt]

Originally posted by Tim_Cranwill

I think sometimes it's good to live by the old "If you don't have anything nice to say..." rule... I don't know, maybe some people weren't taught that in elementary school. I was.

Tim, no need to get so offended, it's not your snake and Jeff seems to have gotten that I was only ranting, as coastal carpets are my favourite carpet. I would take a 12 ft coastal over any blk and yellow JCP.

The point of posting pictures of our animals is to get some feed back on them. Heck, I don't like albinos and I regularly post I don't like albinos, but not one gets offended b/c it's just me and has nothing to do with whether or not, something looks nice.

I truly think that if some cleaning up and refining on that snake is done, a gorgeous black and white JCP can be acheived.

I, also don't think Jeff needs a body guard to weed out "offensive" posts, I too remember elementary, especially the little "buddy gangs".

[Tim_Cranwill]

You're right, Jeff is one person that does NOT need a body guard on this site (unless the threat is physical! ;) :D lol). I wasn't defending Jeff. I was defending people's right to show animals not for criticism, but just for show. You know my stance, I know yours and I think I know Jeff's.

Freedom of speech is everyone's right. Not just those who like to critique things. Just like in tenis, expect a ball served to be returned. ;)

[BOAS_N_PYTHONS]

JEFF:

From gorgeous JCPs and photos to freedom of speech.

These posts do fly off the handle fast, gotta love forums :)

Guess I will take a different direction.

I am wondering the best recipe for Tiramisu from the west coast.....lol.

Anymore JCPs pics :)

Cya...

Tony

[Jeff_Favelle]

LOL Tony! I hear ya. I'm with Crannie though. Why would you go to someone else's post and say "pfft I'd rather have this and that instead of that snake"? I wouldn't do that. I'd start ANOTHER thread and maybe do it there, but I would never be so rude as to do it someone else's thread. Yikes.


What the heck is Tiramisu you crazy bastage? Ok, I'm going to google it right now..........................

More JCP pics? Too many. People get sick of them, LOL! Then I get backlash, and then no one will buy any. ha ha!

Tiramisu...........

[Simon]

Originally posted by Jeff_Favelle
Simon, thanx man! It won't be saleable as a genetic morph, but they'll still loook cool eh? ;)

Well it wont be saleable as a genetic morph right now since its not proven to be genetical, but once you do prove out that its genetic, now that's a different story.

Just like the corn morphs, once you prove out that its genetical then the market's demand raises like crazy for these suckers~~

[Jeff_Favelle]

yeah, I like da way U think Simon ol' pal!!! :)

[BOAS_N_PYTHONS]

JEFF:

LOL.

Tiramisu......did you google it, it' s a great dessert - can' t get enough of it.

But was trying to steer the post back to JCPs of course, lol.

Cya...

Tony

[Jeff_Favelle]

Ahhhh yes, the "Tuscan Truffle"........ LOL!

http://www.heavenlytiramisu.com/whatisit.htm

[CHRISANDBOIDS14]

Originally posted by Jeff_Favelle
LOL Tony! I hear ya. I'm with Crannie though. Why would you go to someone else's post and say "pfft I'd rather have this and that instead of that snake"? I wouldn't do that. I'd start ANOTHER thread and maybe do it there, but I would never be so rude as to do it someone else's thread. Yikes.


What the heck is Tiramisu you crazy bastage? Ok, I'm going to google it right now..........................

More JCP pics? Too many. People get sick of them, LOL! Then I get backlash, and then no one will buy any. ha ha!

Tiramisu...........

Yeah I agree Jeff

And:

YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS JEFF!!!!?????????

Man Tiramisu is THE BEST DESSERT TO GRACE THE EARTH!

I'll tade you a whole cake of it for 2.2 High Yellow JCP's! Come on, good deal!

LOL. Cheers everyone! Enjoy your Tiramisu!

C.

[Jeff_Favelle]

Ok, NOW I'm actually going to have to try the stuff.

It better live up to the hype you clowns. LOL! ;)