Canada' s future in Boas.

[BOAS_N_PYTHONS]

Hi there folks:

I was thinking and rethinking last week about boas of course and was wondering what boas are rare or non-existant in Canada and what boas people in Canada would like to work with, raise up and breed, and provide Canadians with.

Basically list the boas and there scientific names you wish to see in Canada within the next 5-10 years?

I, myself am very interesting in seeing and working with these in coming years:

Amazon Basin Emerald Tree Boas (Corallus Canina)
Arabesque Boas (Boa Constrictor Imperator)
Blood Boas (Boa Constrictor Imperator)
Jungle Boas (Boa Constrictor Imperator)
Motley Boas (Boa Constrictor Imperator)
Red Pacific Boas (Cancoia Carinata)

What about everyone else?

Cya...

Tony Pharosx

[BoidKeeper]

We need more locals of Rosy Boa and more people working with them as well as more Rubber Boas. Boid fans who don't have the room for larger species need more options. I think the futre in this hobby is small species any way. Easier to feed and house and not so frightning to the public.
As for scientific names, sorry man, can't be bothered. Scientific names are for Herpotologist, not Herpotoculturist.lol
Cheers,
Trevor

[Tim_Cranwill]

Feather boas... any color, just MORE feather boas!

[BOAS_N_PYTHONS]

TREVOR:

LOL, OK here are a few of those Rosy Boas I can remember from my research:

GIVING CREDIT to http://www.vmsherp.com/ViewRosies.htm

I apologize forgetting to write the site.

Mexican Rosy Boa (Charina [Lichanura] trivirgata trivirgata)
San Felipe Rosy Boa (Charina [Lichanura] trivirgata saslowi)
Bay of LA Rosy Boa (Charina [Lichanura] trivirgata saslowi)
Lake Chapala Rosy Boa (Charina [Lichanura] trivirgata saslowi)
Barrett Lake Unicolor Rosy Boa (Charina [Lichanura] trivirgata roseofusca)
Ensenada Unicolor Rosy Boa (Charina [Lichanura] trivirgata roseofusca)
Hemet Rosy Boa (Charina [Lichanura] trivirgata myriolepis)
San Gabriel Mtns. Rosy Boa (Charina [Lichanura] trivirgata myriolepis)
Carrizo Road Rosy Boa (Charina [Lichanura] trivirgata myriolepis)
Box Springs Rosy Boa (Charina [Lichanura] trivirgata myriolepis)
Anza Borrego Rosy Boa (Charina [Lichanura] trivirgata myriolepis)
'Limburg' Rosy Boa (Charina [Lichanura] trivirgata myriolepis)
Corn Springs Rosy Boa (Charina [Lichanura] trivirgata myriolepis)
Pioneertown Rosy Boa (Charina [Lichanura] trivirgata myriolepis)
Black Mountain Rosy Boa (Charina [Lichanura] trivirgata myriolepis)
Box Canyon Rosy Boa (Charina [Lichanura] trivirgata myriolepis)
Long Canyon Rosy Boa (Charina [Lichanura] trivirgata myriolepis)
Kofa Mountain Rosy Boa (Charina [Lichanura] trivirgata arizonae)
Harquahala Mountain Rosy Boa (Charina [Lichanura] trivirgata arizonae)

And the California Rubber Boas that I can think of:

Rubber Boa (Charina bottae bottae)
Southern Rubber Boa (Charina umbratica)

Man you got a long list to get into, lol. The future in boids in my opinion is quality animals bred for genes, color, patterns, rarity, and value. These factors are what get people interested. Space is a factor but I have seen many who said they would only have 1 - 2 boas ever wind up getting 10 boas to date....the passion is addictive indeed.

Cya...

Tony

[BOAS_N_PYTHONS]

TIM:

Check out places like WalMart, Zellers, Sears or any designer stores I am sure they will have any size any color.....lol :)

Cya...

Tony

[Kimo]

Candoia Aspera!!!!!! (Viper Boa)

I'm gonna try and get a couple pairs in 2005

Josh

[D J N]

Well Arabesques and Albino Arabesques are rare as well. If I had the money I'd love to work with those!

[Ryan and Katie]

Boa constrictor longicauda!

[ReptileHQ]

Wow Tony, you "remembered" those rosy boa localities in exactly the same order as this link:

http://www.vmsherp.com/ViewRosies.htm

Thats pretty impressive stuff!

Chris

[Matt_K]

heh heh heh.. And wrote them out the exact same [way]..

-Matt

[BOAS_N_PYTHONS]

MATT and CHRIS:

LOL.........I see no reason to make something it is not.

I was only mentioning boas that Trevor brought up so anyone interested might look up a few names and decide if this is something they want to get into. Being my research on this species was from that site is exactly what I remembered....I guess I should have posted the site, oh well. Mentioning these boas is nothing more than that, not like I was saying I had these in my collection.

So don' t blow something from nothing....already we know Chris loves doing that here and the comment in his post to this thread comes from this.

PRESS THIS (http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56748&page=1)

So let' s stick to what this thread is about - future boas in Canada. And keep the drama on the soaps.

Cya...

Tony

[BoidKeeper]

Tony what would you rather see, three people with the room for 10 boas or 200 with the room for 20 small boas?
Cheers,
Trevor

[ReptileHQ]

I think everyone has seen that by now Tony, no need for the link.

Remember, I didn't start that.

I was just pointing out a funny "coincidence", that just so happened to be the first thing that popped up on GOOGLE under "Lichanura localities". Maybe next time you could say "these are the localities i found on google"

Cheers

Chris aka the Drama queen

[ReptileHQ]

I'm with you Trevor....small species

[Matt_K]

TONY:

LOL, OK here are a few of those Rosy Boas I can remember:

Why not just give credit to the WEBSITE that you took that list from?? Isn't that the proper procedure when stealing info???

Cya...

Matt

[ReptileHQ]

Amen Matt

[marisa]

For me I'd like to see a bigger variety in smaller species of boas. I am not a sand boa/rosy boa fan so that would be sweet IMHO. I do not have any boas now as I simply cannot house BCI, BCC, etc without being squished.

And yes, giving credit where credit is due is always a GOOD thing.

Marisa
P.S. Stop bringing in trouble from other websites/members to this thread or else it will be removed. Now back to boas......

[BOAS_N_PYTHONS]

TREVOR:

LOL.........if I could say it like Bill Gates, 1 boa in each home worldwide would be a start. But seriously I do not understand the question as both situations have a good answer.

1. The 3 people with 10 boas needs more information, like why only 10 boas is it based on budget, space, limits, or what?

2. The 200 with 20 small boas also needs some information, like reasons why they have 20, or want more or just 20?

Answering this question best would be alot of factors involved already mentioned in my previous post. In the end people buy what they want, and breeders breed/sell what they want. Some follow demand of the market, others do it for rarity, and a few see a future be it sales or popularity.

I listed my choices because I am passionate about boas and the ones in my list intrigue me, what there future is once I have and breed them all we will see. Making a choice from small to large boas is like buying a compact economy car or a large SUV, everyone buys them and you buy them to suit your needs. :)

But the thread is going off topic I really hoped to see people' s lists of future boas they want to see in Canada. So I hope more people list boas than get off topic, another thread can be made for that, thank you.

Cya...

Tony

[BoidKeeper]

My point is it is easier for someone to keep 20 small boas then it is 10 big ones. So with that in mind I think the future of snake keeping every where will be a move towards keeping smaller species.
Cheers,
Trevor

[Siretsap]

To when the holographic reptile like the fake aquariums you can get now with those fake fish? ;)

[varanus69]

i say it is in bcc, bci color and patern morphs.human nature is to improve and make things more beautiful (in the eye of the be holder) with new and more varied patterns comes higher investment prices which means more money to by newer stuff. While i'm sure there are many followers of rosies and rubber boas i believe they are not as popular and never will be. Show me a rosie worth $20,000 and i will stand corrected on there investment value. But in the end animals of ANY kind should only be kept and bred if you are passionate about that particular animal.Myself for insance would never buy a platty,or mojave ball evan though a pair would cost close to the price of my house and WAY more than my car because there color and pattern are uninteresting to me IMO. Well hopefully that wasn't to far off topic and i'm done rambling now....
BCC,BCI morphs all the way

[foman]

I'm with Ryan and Katie, longicauda would be sweet.

[JonD]

Originally posted by foman
I'm with Ryan and Katie, longicauda would be sweet. I agree, they are sweet! Maby next year for me!!!

[Linds]

I would like to see the below become more common, or make their way up/over here, if they haven't yet...

B.c. amarali (Brazilian and Bolivian) - Short-tailed Boas
B. c. longicauda
B. c. nebulosa - Clouded Boa
B. c. occidentalis - Argentine Boa
B. c. imperator - more of the smaller, locality-specific varieties, such as Corn Island, Cay Calker, etc.

Any and all Rosy Boa localities. They really are a struggling species up here, as they aren't really deemed worth the paperwork and $ to get up here :(

E. cenchria alvarezi - Argentine Rainbow Boa
E. c. barbouri - Isla Marajo Rainbow Boa
E. striatus fosteri - Bimini Boa
E. s. fowleri - Berry Island Boa
E. chrysogaster ssp. - Turk's and Caico's Island Boas

C. caninus (Amazon Basin) - Emerald Tree Boa

[bistrobob85]

I would defenetly get more of these in canada:

Dumeril's Boa
Boa constrictor Longicauda
Boa constrictor Amarali
Boa constrictor Occidentalis
Womas
Corallus Caninus ( new localities )
Super Dwarf Retics
Olive Pythons

I think i'm reasonnable, aint-i?

[Invictus]

Longicauda for SURE. My favorite locality of boa by far. I'm fully planning on bringing some of those in next year, finances pending. But with the strength of the CDN dollar right now, it's looking more and more likely, as long as they are being produced.

[hhw]

Dwarf localities of BCI's for sure. As soon as *somebody* produces some Cay Caulkers or I put together enough money to bring in an order from the US (not holding my breath), I am gonna get me a pair or trio of those beauties. Lots of people love BCI's, but they just grow a bit too big. The dwarf locales are perfect; I remember back when Hogg Isles were extremely scarce and look at them now. However, not everyone is into the hypo look; many prefer the traditional appearance just in a smaller package and then there's people like me who are on the opposite end of the Hogg Isles, who prefer an anery looking BCI.

[Matt_K]

Originally posted by hhw
Dwarf localities of BCI's for sure. As soon as *somebody* produces some Cay Caulkers or I put together enough money to bring in an order from the US (not holding my breath), I am gonna get me a pair or trio of those beauties.

Patience my man, you need to have patience!! LOL :D

-Matt

[Edwin]

Yeah, definitely longicauda, and also hi-end ATBs.

[Jeff_Favelle]

Jungles, motleys, and arabesque salmons.

[Sean_.E.]

I would love to see more smaller (and rarer) genera/species:

Tropidophis (Dwarf boas/wood snakes)
Ungaliophis (Dwarf boas/banana boas)
Candoia (Ground/pacific boas)
Trachyboa (Eyelash/spiny boas) - unlikely
Charina bottae (Rubber boas), etc.

Aswell as:
Sazinia madagascariensis (Madagascan tree boa)
Uncommon localities of BCI
Ancrantophis madagacariensis (Madagascan ground boa)

And more...