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Bloodman6
12-06-04, 10:24 AM
I saw a pic of a "viper" ball morph in Reptiles. I also heard of a ball blood hybrid. Is the Viper ball the hybrid? It looks like it too me.

Tim_Cranwill
12-06-04, 11:55 AM
Blood X Ball crosses are called "Super Balls".

Bloodman6
12-06-04, 12:45 PM
Does anyone have any pics of them?

Bartman
12-06-04, 02:05 PM
http://www.roussisreptiles.com/collectionpages/balls/super.html

I hate hybrids, but I must admit..these a freakin awesome!!

mannannan
12-06-04, 02:08 PM
Here's another one, of borneo blood x ball:
http://www.chondroweb.com/DrFrankenstein/Images/Pics/BloodBall/BloodBallM1a.jpg

Slim69
12-06-04, 04:22 PM
Interesting, Ive never heard of such a thing. Im curious as to what some of your opinions are on this. Wouldnt there be severe deformities if something like this were to happen?

mannannan
12-06-04, 04:39 PM
Quite a few different python hybrids out there, bat eaters (Burm x Retic), carpondros (Carpet x GTP), superballs (Ball x Blood), and what not. My personal opinion about the whole ordeal is that they should not be. I see them as a result of breeders playing god, while on the other hand, I have to say hats off to their skill. Getting, say, a burm to breed with a Retic is no small feat, and incubating the eggs successfully is most likely extremely difficult as well...

justinO
12-08-04, 08:12 AM
I must admit I love the look of the carpondros (even if the idea behind them isn't good)

but these bloodXballs........ look wrong.

:medmashed


Jessy

Markus Jayne
12-08-04, 08:17 AM
The Viper Ball, owned by BHB Enterprises, is NOT a Hybrid. It is an import out of Africa. Pure ball python...and a beautiful one at that!

Markus

honduranfreekk
12-08-04, 08:25 AM
Markus is there any pics of BHBs Viper ball posted I dont think I have seen it??

Thank you

Kelvin@Brigitte

Markus Jayne
12-08-04, 08:28 AM
Kelvin,

There was one and it was removed. Pick-up the January issue of Reptiles Mag. It is in there.

Give me a call if you get a chance. I'm only cleaning rats today! Fun WOW!

705-277-2365

Markus

honduranfreekk
12-08-04, 08:40 AM
I will have to pick that issue up today then;)

Cool I was thinking about giving you a shout today:)
I will give you a call around 11:00??
I just finished cleaning all my cages out lol.I think I liked it better when I was picking them up from you my friend lol.

I just had to throw them in the freezer and there was no clean up :)

Kelvin@Brigitte

hhw
12-08-04, 08:40 AM
Are there any less common morphs in that issue of Reptiles? Something like an Ivory or Congo Jungle?

Bloodman6
12-08-04, 09:40 AM
Ivory is in there. Not the other one never heard of it.

Markus Jayne
12-08-04, 09:55 AM
Here is a good link if you want to see most of the morphs out there. It is a page I did for Greg Graziani's website. You can click on the pics to enlarge them.

Hope you like!

Markus

Mutation Page (http://grazianireptiles.com/Mutations.htm)

BoidKeeper
12-08-04, 10:08 AM
Another one is the ball X angolan cross. That one bugs me the most.
As for that article and the viper ball, both kick ***!
Cheers,
Trevor

Andy_G
12-08-04, 11:14 PM
Originally posted by BoidKeeper
Another one is the ball X angolan cross. That one bugs me the most.


I agree. Nothing like hybridizing the crap out of an animal that isn't well established in captivity, but is in high demand and commands a high price even as a pure animal.

zero&stich
12-08-04, 11:25 PM
Grr...my friend reminded me of holding my tongue, lol soo I'll just simply say I am also discusted with the unpure blood line of Angolans.

atw
12-09-04, 01:52 PM
Yes.. if you think hybrids are freaky did you check out some of the related stuff from Bartman's link....like the 2 headed boa:

http://www.roussisreptiles.com/collectionpages/other/twoheadedboa.html

Vengeance
12-09-04, 02:13 PM
That kinda weird, I wonder if both heads are fully functonal or not, mot likely not. But to want to prove something like that out is distrubing.