Using Gas to kill feeder rodents

[reptilesalonica]

I made this chamber to safely kill my feeder rodents (mice and rats)
http://reptilesalonica.ipbhost.com/uploads/post-14-1102195932.jpg

[BoidKeeper]

Looks like a neat design. Can you give us a description please?
Thanks,
Trevor

[peterm15]

whats that little thing at the side for.... and arent you supposed to have some air escape... sorry just curious if you can point out how this one works... i like it..

and please dont take this as being rude or ignorant but what language is your site in.... at first i thought it was greek ( cause of the letters, even though i dont think ive ever seen greek letters) but im havin doubts...

[reptilesalonica]

a) the chamber where the feeder rodents is
b) the pipe for the excess gas, where there is water inside
c) the gas device (photo 1 & 2)

~Greg~

[reptilesalonica]

and please dont take this as being rude or ignorant but what language is your site in.... at first i thought it was greek ( cause of the letters, even though i dont think ive ever seen greek letters) but im havin doubts...
They are Greek, i am Greek. Encode into Greek Windows and you will see Greek letters ;)

[Phrasty]

what kinda gas is that? Co2??

[reptilesalonica]

I don't know the exact word in english. The gas that we cook with.

[peterm15]

natural gas is what you cook with... if your useing baking soda and vinvger or dry ice your useing co2....

natural gas is what can give you carbon Monoxide poisioning and carbon Dioxide is what is ( to my understanding) used to kill feeders

[REH]

Very good setup.
the tank is most likely full of propane or butane.

REH

[reptilesalonica]

That's right! The gas is Butane ;)

[timminsreptiles]

as if your using butane for that.......there sno way id feed my stuff with mice or rats that have been killed with butane!

[reptilesalonica]

Originally posted by timminsreptiles
as if your using butane for that.......there sno way id feed my stuff with mice or rats that have been killed with butane!
Why not?

[timminsreptiles]

well because butane is a toxic gas isnt it, propane or natural gas.

[timminsreptiles]

i meant LIKE propane or natural gas....sorry

I like how its set up tho....but i would ude CO2

[reptilesalonica]

Well, here i cannot find CO2 :(
I don't know where to search. I don't have any other solution but use butane.

~Greg~

[timminsreptiles]

you can make your own CO2 very easily......one method is mixing baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) and vinagar or you can use dry ice wich you can find at welding shops or companys which make bags of ice for mabye 2$ a pound......Lucas

[reptilesalonica]

Originally posted by timminsreptiles
you can make your own CO2 very easily......one method is mixing baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) and vinagar
How much vinegar and how much baking soda in the mix is sufficient to kill 6 medium sized rats in the container?

~Greg~

[timminsreptiles]

Here check out this site....im sure it would be easy to modify in order to fit you chamber.

http://www.alysion.org/euthanasia/

[reptilesalonica]

Thanks!

[BoidsUnlimited]

You dont play Paintball where you live!!!!!!

*You said you cant find CO2 is why I ask*

[timminsreptiles]

ya paint ball or homemade pop canisters too.........how do you set up a bottle like that tho Boids?

[reptilesalonica]

Originally posted by BoidsUnlimited
You dont play Paintball where you live!!!!!!

*You said you cant find CO2 is why I ask*
I don't play paintball and i didn't knew that paintball uses CO2 bottles...:o

Btw, i made a small research and those bottles are quite expensive €37 for the bottle with the tap on top of it.

Baking soda and vinegar seems fine to me. All it needs a little practice to decide;)

~Greg~

[Stockwell]

Yikes!! Put out that cigarette!
I recommend NOT using combustible gas for obvious reasons.
I think that might be classified as a bomb, and while it might be effective, snakes prefer their rodents (and keepers) in one piece :)

[reptilesalonica]

LOL...noones smokes in the house ;)

[Jungle Jen]

EEK butane, propane, etc will kill the rodents, but they may also affect the snakes! Looking at your setup it would easily converge to be used as a CO2 chamber, safer for the rodents, safer for YOU, and safer for the reptiles. Here is an easy to follow link which works excellent. I have used this method several times and as well as working efficiently, it is considered a humane way of euthanizing rodents by several veterinary associations globally.

Good luck http://www.alysion.org/euthanasia/

[reptilesalonica]

Originally posted by timminsreptiles
Here check out this site....im sure it would be easy to modify in order to fit you chamber.

http://www.alysion.org/euthanasia/
Thanks JJ, timminsreptiles already posted that link for me.

~Greg~