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dean_h00

12-05-04, 07:03 PM

anyone whho can take a gun to an innocent animal in my mind is messed up and just as bad as any person who has killed another human being
and for all you who want to argue about feeding the animals already or whatever
THERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FEEDING A PRE *HUMANELY* KILLED ANIMAL AS OPPOSED TO AN ANIMAL KILLED BY A DEMENTED IDIOT LOOKING FOR A GOOD TIME
i am not caling anybody any names so dont get all hissy about it I just think that this might be the dumbest post/question/"JOKE" I have ever seen in my life

there is no room on these forums for cr*p posts like this one
I dont want to see things like this and Im sure many people dont either

edited for language by Matt_K

Tim_Cranwill

12-05-04, 07:13 PM

Originally posted by daiyoukai
wow, never thought a joke would be taken so seriously.

Relax....

Ummm... yeah, right. We should all take a more lax attitude towards beating animals to death. Yeah, THAT'S that solution!

There's a joke forum for knee-slappers like that one (Joke Forum (http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=98) ). Or better yet, get on stage and tell some of those "killer" jokes in front of an audience. I bet that would go over <b>REALLY</b> well...

Sorry dude... BAD taste and WRONG time and place.

Matt_K

12-05-04, 07:25 PM

dean_h00 - Judging by the masked vulgarity, im assuming that you know that kind of language is frowned upon on here... In the future, could you please find a different word to express yourself? Thanks...

-Matt

Matt_K

12-05-04, 07:27 PM

Originally posted by daiyoukai
baby seal them.

Throw them in the freazer.
what ever you he does make sure he takes pics, cllubing a bunny would make a grea "owned" pic. :P

I'm not even sure how you can say you're joking.. Read your post again...

Sorry dude... BAD taste and WRONG time and place.

I agree with Tim 100%.

-Matt

dean_h00

12-05-04, 07:41 PM

I apologize for my french but i just got back from montreal and i find the language is quite catchy
lol
sorry bout the language

BOA68

12-05-04, 08:56 PM

Chances are that a .22 round will exit the rabbit by itself. But if it doesn't, make sure to remove it, because the lead is bad for the snake. There is nothing wrong with shooting the rabbits. it is plenty humane. A .22 round will kill the rabbit instantly, so it is not going to suffer. In fact it is probably more humane than any other way that rabbits or any other feeder animals are killed.

Bartman

12-05-04, 09:12 PM

You could just gas it...I think it would be easier and less messy.

Shad0w

12-05-04, 09:14 PM

I would think shooting the animal would be awfully messy... and besides... What about gun power residues... a boid ingesting that couldnt be good...

Even though I dont like doing it.. I find clubbing them humane and quick...

daiyoukai

12-06-04, 02:17 AM

Edit, sorry for saying hippie tree huger.
the fact is animals kill other animals, may it be for protection, food, shelter, territory..... and if a person is doing that killing it's no different, humans dont have natural weapons (claws, fangs, strength...) we realy on technology, some may see that as a unfair advantage but it's not, we are using our natural tools to the best of our advantage. Animals arnt on this earth to serve our needs but to play a roll in the natural progression of each species. It all plays a roll in the bigegr picture of things.

Its a joke people, I dont expect anyone to take pictures of clubbing a rabbit. As long as the remains are put to use it should matter who kill's it.

now seriously, lighten up. and sorry, didnt think so many people would be offended over a animal that cant comprehend it's own fate.

Finally, I dont take plessure in taking a animals life but if I use it for my own consumption or another animals it's still a interesting process none the less.

JimDandy

12-06-04, 02:21 AM

Originally posted by daiyoukai
Jesus christ yall are a bunch of hippie tree huggers arnt ya?

No political or religious discussion.

RULE BREAKER, RULE BREAKER

DeviledDiablo

12-06-04, 10:30 AM

"RULE BREAKER, RULE BREAKER"

LOL OMFG THATS FUNNY...
LMAO i cant stop laughin at that comment LOL!!
good one dood :D

lakeridgekennel

12-06-04, 10:35 AM

thanks for all the help everyone. Some of the stuff posted here is very sick. I like animals and don't like killing i don't hunt and only kill feeders when i have to. .22 is very humane as compaired to some of my freinds who trap they just hang them after being in a leg trap of a day or so. I also don't want them all mashed up or my snakes won't eat them and clubbing really mashes up an animal. Thanks to everyone who posted useful info.

Thanks
Sean

12-06-04, 11:17 AM

hmmmmm Can afford a 300.00 dollar snake that eats rabbits but can't afford a CO2 setup? Why don't you just slit the rabbits throat there RAMBO!? Then take that pic with the knife between your teeth! Maybe even try a freaking 12 gauge after all will the 22 kill it first shot?.... Hell why not go all out and get a grenade My guess would be you plan on keeping the feet for good luck to huh?....

Lots of love from MONTREAL!!!!!!

BOA68

12-06-04, 11:40 AM

Cookie, is there really a need for a post like that. First off lakeridgekennel, never suggested clubbing or any other cruel means of killing the rabbit. That was other people who said that so i don't think there is any need to post something like that aimed at lakeridgekennel. Also it is rediculous to get a CO2 setup just to kill feeder animals. And a .22 will kill the rabbit with one shot, i have killed deer with a .22 with only one shot. So you have no clue what you are talking about. A .22 is plenty quick an humane. Would you rather be shot and die instantly or within 1 or 2 seconds or suck down CO2 until you die??? I'd wanna be shot. The poor guy just asked if he should remove the bullet, not whether wut he is doing is ok with everyone else. if you can't answer the post with a usefull answer than don't post. This isn't a forum for your views on how to humanely kill feeders.

lakeridgekennel

12-06-04, 12:55 PM

COOKIE: almost all my feeders come to me f/t. why woudl i get a co2 setup for 10 rabbits that stupid. you need to read the post more carefully and keep ALL bad coments to yourself MF!!

12-06-04, 01:11 PM

.... BOA you for 1 have no clue period! CO2 they simply fall asleep just like us humans that heat with a co2 heater end end up killing the whole household!!! Ever heard of the "silent killer"? that would be co2 they are refering to!!!! i know i would rather that way then your 2 seconds and it's over.... as for you lakeridge keep the MF comments for your elementary school classmates !!! I was not being a jerk responding simply YOU BOTH have no clue co2 is an odorless and tasteless gas that does not and i say DOES NOT remain in the animal it's used on... versed the copper or led bullet that would leave led or copper traces in the animal!!!... i guess you use that Rambo knife to dig that bullet out too huh?!!! only one comment here is needed and that would be : EEEEEZ there RAMBO!!!! your feeding a snake not your kinfolk!!!!

12-06-04, 01:25 PM

NOT TO MENTION A 22 is known to shatter on impact in the body as the bullet is hotter then the target and then you would be simply cuting the rabbit to pieces to get the fragments out if they remain!! we can debate this all day until you even get the slightest clue i may be right... after all assisted suicides methods are using a CO2 type canister and until you use one yourself and see for yourself don't judge people or there methods because your methods are simply just wrong and if i had to resort to bashing a rabbits head in or shooting an animal i'll get out of the trade!!!! after all i am not here to fight or call people names because of there opinions or views ... even if there simply lame or ignorent!!!

Matt_K

12-06-04, 01:29 PM

Cookie, is there any logical reason as to why you feel the need to be rude to people on this site??? Instead of masking your vulgarity and being so hostile, why didn't you just make another name and agree with yourself? Oh wait, you've already done that...

If you can't have a decent conversation with people on the boards and not resort to childish remarks, just don't reply....

-Matt

BOA68

12-06-04, 01:38 PM

I know exactly what i am talking about. I am a hunter, so i don't agree with views of people who are anti hunter or anti killing animals. Just because i don't have a problem killing animals does not mean that i am wrong. Ok people have been killing animals for thousands of years for food and other purposes so its not "just wrong". Just a question, do you eat meat??? The way those animals are killed is much worse than shooting a rabbit. And a .22 round will break apart when it enters the body, this has nothing to do with the body heat of the animal or the bullet. So your wrong there, it is simple balistics. I'm not gonna get into bullet grains, gun calibers, and velocities right now. The round will not explode inside a rabbit like you have suggested. You won't have to cut the rabbit apart to get the bullet out, it will remain intact. Once again, just because you don't agree with it doesn't mean its wrong. And also once again neither myself or lakeridgekennel suggested clubbing it, although many people use this method and don't have a problem with it.

Originally posted by Cookie
until you use one yourself and see for yourself don't judge people or there methods because your methods are simply just wrong

I believe you are the one judging. I just stated in my last post that your post was uncalled for and that lakeridgekennel didn't say anything about what you said in your responce. I think you also said that our views were ignorant in your post. I think you are the one being judgemental.

peterm15

12-06-04, 01:39 PM

Originally posted by Cookie
.... Ever heard of the "silent killer"? that would be co2 they are refering to!!!!

actually the silent killer is carbon monoxide... co not co2... carbon dioxide is co2

otherwise i dont know much about snakes or guns but just make sure you wash the rabbit first to get rid of any gsr.... ar you goint to be freezing them?

12-06-04, 01:47 PM

NO actualy your wrong matt, my brother came to the site wanting to sell breeder mice and he was simply banned for it!!! as you have your mice breeders selected on this site. As for the rude comment i was simply responding to someones take pics of the whole thing... I came down on lakeside for calling me a MF as for the 22 i think that's pretty sad if you ask me and by posting you ARE asking me! as for mice_unlimited i think you owe my brother an e-mail exsplaining why he was banned ( because the mouse breeders have been selected already and no room for someone selling mice at half the others prices) as i would think maybe some would have taken advantage of that deal but his thread lasted what 1 hour?..... Anyone can join this site at anytime just don't try sell what the others have or you get banned i guess and maybe if you checked a little more into things you would find that me and my brother are twins there sherlock therefor have the same b-day and live in the same province our i.p addy's are totaly different as i have one provider and he has another!... : ) sorry but like i said matt before don't judge or jump to conclusions before you know some facts..... and fact right now is lets remember in the wild they don't have people helping them kill there prey and all i stated was to try use co2 instead of a gun or a hammer and if your not into doing this then keep buying the frozen prey. as breeding takes time space money not to mention the killing part.

lakeridgekennel

12-06-04, 01:57 PM

i don't care if your right you are just a jack a#$ and don't know when to give up and as for that mf comment that was for the rambo.

12-06-04, 01:57 PM

Hey if i am wrong i am wrong..... as i never shot an animal or killed one with a club. If i am wrong then fine i am wrong. I am french and have probs writing or coming across sometimes, But seriously i guess what i meen to say is "why not use co2 it's more humaine then clubs and guns.... I know what you mean by killing for thousands of years but there are laws now on how we go about that process maybe there should be some laws about how we kill our reptiles prey as well... I gues i am a firm believer in the co2 now as i have seen and used it...i was afraid the gas stayed in the animal and it actualy don't I too used the wacking the mouses heads on a hard surface but i guess i too found a more human way to do it....... guess i am simply stressing co2 is the way to go and maybe those who have not tryed it get informed more as i did and now it's the only way i will go about the deed of killing a rodent.... I don't use rabbits and if i did i would buy them frozen unless i was equiped to kill such a larger animal then a mouse and now i am but still would'nt have a need to kill rabbits and if i did i would use co2

Shad0w

12-06-04, 01:58 PM

Woa wait a min... if ya do yer research you will see that CO2 in high concentrations can be irritating to the lungs... Not to mention the animals can panic while waiting for the CO2 to kill them.. check out the doc Augerdvm posted from the Vet society regarding euthanasia, it clearly states such...

I will stand by my method of clubbing quickly to humanely kill rabits... and I would bet a gun would be quicker than CO2 too.. its also an approved method Cookie...

You are clearly mis informed my friend

Read for yourself here:
Link Here (http://www.avma.org/resources/euthanasia.pdf)

Linds

12-06-04, 02:05 PM

Cookie,
Nobody gets banned on this site unless they violate the TOS. He can give mice away for free (and many people do), we don't care, but if he breaks the rules, then he goes. I don't know what you would be even talking about "because the mouse breeders have been selected already and no room for someone selling mice at half the others prices", as I suggest you get your facts straight before making such accusations. We don't 'select' or endorse anyone. sSnakeSs is not responsible for anything bought or sold in the classifieds, nor do we sell anything ourselves.

Cookie and Lakeridge,
Please refrain from calling names. I don't care 'who started it'.

sapphire_moon

12-06-04, 02:05 PM

if your brother was here to sell mice then he should have been in the seller section (not saying he wasn't!).

I have been on this site a while and I know none of the mods would ban someone for simply wanting to sell some mice.

Thats right, in the wild they don't have people helping them kill things, that is why in the wild they get so beat up, getting bit and scratched and all.

If not used correctly Co2 can make the rabbit suffer, And if not "clubbed" hard enough, you will simply knock the rabbit out, and that gives it the chance of waking up and hurting the snake, as for the hammer, well that would be quite messy, and as I can imagine painful.

Where as a .22 would, if shot right, probably take seconds to kill. As I am sure rabbits don't see guns as a threat to them, they won't be scared by seeing it, and someone can put it in a box, and just shoot it, not take it out, have to most likely hold it down, and club it.

Though I have never killed a rabbit, and hopefully won't have to, That is just my OPINION on the matter.

Linds

12-06-04, 02:12 PM

As for my a response to this post...

Shooting is no good. Bullets do shatter inside, and you don't want that ending up inside your snake.

Massive blunt force trauma and gassing are pretty well the only accepted ways to go about humanely offing them. Rabbits are actually fairly easy to break their necks since they have such heavy heads. An aquaintance of mine just wacks them in the back of the head/neck with a wrench. I know it sounds (and looks) pretty brutal, but they are killed instantly. It also has a much larger margin for error than gassing does.

12-06-04, 02:13 PM

Shadow i can relate to the clubing just can't relate to the shooting part.... totaly disagree with the shooting part actualy. If you give co2 in a high dosage for sure it burns the lungs not to mention the nose and eyes... all depends on what p.p.m.'s you use (parts per million)... as you don't just open your tank full blast and go to work.... when you count the time and money the co2 takes sure clubing is the way to go... i am just saying i find it more humaine to go with the co2 as sometimes it takes 2-3 hits or more to kill a rabbit sometimes a mouse can take 2-3 hits before it's over depending who does the club'n... you have a guy that said he always buys them frozen do you really think that he will get it right on his first hit on the rabbits head?.. I have heard some horror stories of freezing alive club them 5 times before they died right down to blasting them with a pellet gun or 22... as for killing deer with a 22 i find that hard to believe as a 22 would only pinch them... 22's are a small game type gun yes this is true but i find it even harder to believe that you take down deer all the time with your 22 in one shot...just my opinion as i have never shot a deer and maybe a 22 could take down a large buck once heard of a guy taking down a giant with a stone so anythings possible

12-06-04, 02:15 PM

spoke to my friends grandmother and your right Linds there necks break easy and one twist is all that is needed no hammers or guns .....that's if you can stomach the pop'n sound that is

lakeridgekennel

12-06-04, 02:20 PM

MY friend i am getting the rabbits from isn't set up for co2 plus its two much for 10 rabbits. it's not worth it and i am getting kinda mad at u cookie because you are starting to call me a bad reptile keeper the way i get my feeder. First they are free plus he doesn't really care about the best way to kill them he just wants them dead and a gun is instant and they don't feel it. and because i say use a gun and just dig the round out doesn't make me rambo.

12-06-04, 02:23 PM

I swear he had 3 posts 1 was on something snake related so was the second post he was saying he agreed with me on a co2 issue all he said was "i agree with cookie" as he breeds mice and i get them from him.... I don't watch him use the co2 but he swears by it and he IS my brother and actualy i have sold about 10 snakes on here and we both met with the buyers as they bought mice from him and the reptile from me... I am not always right but the guy that posted has e-mailed me in the past saying i was stupid for prices i was asking etc etc I wish i had the mail still!!! I try give some advice on what i know and never offer it on something i don't... i would sit back and learn just like the rest if i did'nt know... But the guy has writen me in the past with insults and his MF comment just proves his character... as for my brother he never broke a rule what so ever all he did was offer 100 mice for 45$ 40 grams and up or something like that....... as for the free mice!!!! where can i get those!!!! lol as there a rare breed lol (jokin)

12-06-04, 02:29 PM

I never said your a bad reptile keeper lake.... I base that on conditions of enclosures fresh water and feeding if a "bad reptile keeper" feeds them at all i never said your a bad reptile keeper as i don't know you... but it's not the first insault from you or name called .... It's all good and don't get mad at me as i am just simply trying to state the most human way possible to kill those rabbit's...... I am not trying to discourage you from taking the rabbits either just asking you to do the deed as humaine as possible by either the old or new way but for your reptiles sake a 22 is the wrong way to go i promise you this..... Take a duck when you shoot it you have the shot all trough the duck and have to spit the shot out as you eat it.... a snake won't spit those fragments out is all

lakeridgekennel

12-06-04, 02:34 PM

are you the guy cookie that tryed to sell a burm on here for $150 a foot or something.

Linds

12-06-04, 02:42 PM

If you guys have had problems with eachother in the past, then please leave them at the door when you come here.

As for your brother's banning, I couldn't find any records, but I ran a search and believe that there was the impression his account was yours? I didn't handle that situation, but I'm sure one of the other mods will be able to clarify it further.

12-06-04, 02:42 PM

yes lakeside that's me and you e-mailed me with your comments about it.....when infact the granite DID sell for 900.00 and not the 1500.00 i was asking but it sold in 1 week!!! Incase your going to ask "and it did'nt eat rabbits"?... No it did'nt as he did'nt like rabbits he ate pigs to be specific and they were bought frozen as here frozen mice rats rabbits pigs etc are cheaper frozen... Glad you remember who you insault there lakeridge really glad you remember .......shows your real side now don't it? :)

BOA68

12-06-04, 02:51 PM

Cookie you must have misread my post. I did not say i always kill deer with a .22 with one shot. I said i have done it before. That is once not always, I have only tried once. And you won't kill a deer with a .22 in one shot unless you hit them in the head, but you can. You need to read more carefully I think this is part of the problem throughout this post. I personally think that the issue of killing food items humanely is discussed way too much. They are mice, rats and rabbits, just kill them. We aren't trying to kill people. I use the club or hit against hard surface method. The snake needs to eat so the rat has to die. Anyway you do it is probably better than being squeezed to death, and that is nature.

12-06-04, 02:53 PM

i promise he is my twin brother, He's actualy older by 8 minutes... If i wanted to sell mice i simply would use my name and not his name. My e-mail is totaly different and so is my i.p maybe it was concluded we were the same guy as his profile says montreal and his b-day is the same as me but we are twins.... Actualy we are triplets but my other brother hates reptiles and is missing out. I feel no need to have to prove this point though as this is a free site but we are willing to support it financialy as well as moraly. I don't have anything bad to say about the site at all as it's never done me any wrong... But lake has e-mailed me many times insulting me on my reptiles prices etc even have had a few threats (all of wich i laughed off)... I was not commentimg because of the past with this guy i was simply puting my opinion but now that i know who started this thread i no longer have anything to say in regards to this thread. maybe a few others he has done this to will come forward with some proof and some light will be shed on to who he is and really about.... better yet check his previous posts they speak for themselfs!!!!!

lakeridgekennel

12-06-04, 02:58 PM

I am one of the most laid back guys around but and don't care about much but i remember about the burm because i almost past out i was laughing so much. I sent you 1 email because of the burm and thats it.

Linds I am sorry about acting so bad but all i wanted to know was what to do and i got it from everyone but this guy goes shooting his mouth off and he had no right and i sunk down and i am very sorry to everyone EXEPT cookie.

12-06-04, 03:07 PM

Boa you have your ways... I may read wrong and maybe i shoul;d take more time reading or atleast use googles language tools to translate... I can not tell you how to kill your prey only sudgest how. There are no laws at the moment on this issue but i am sure if there were and in time i am sure there will be as there are laws on everything... Not to say people will follow them ... I just find it hard to believe shooting is a safe way to go or not messy (messy as in visable trauma) kinda like the nose bleeds you see on frozen prey killed using the club or hard surface method. I have had snakes for over 20 years and have been killing and freezing the hard surface method until i researched and tryed the co2... trust me it was not easy to convert as i was head stong on doing it my way... as i am now with the co2 and your right the snake does have to eat but it don't have to eat led/copper traces especialy sharp shrapnel that will puncture the intestine lets remember we are looking out for number one and that's the animals and not what's actualy better for us but better for the animal i would think as that's what i am about (what's better for the animal)... So many people are so misinformed and i have the reptiles to prove it as i have saved many from the freezer as well as from being destroyed over something so simple to cure or correct.... as many injuries come from neglect of the keeper and as far as a rabbit can kill a snake in the process of eating a hopper can scratch or harm a snake let alone a rabbit i guess that's why i am firm believer of frozen thawed or fresh killed frsh killed as in the hard surface method

lakeridgekennel

12-06-04, 03:10 PM

you are the only one thats made me mad on snakess.

12-06-04, 03:28 PM

lakeside... 1.3 african rock pythons 2.7 burmese python 1.2 albino burmese pythons 1.1 green burms 1.1 granite burms 1.1 normal reticulating python 0.1 yellow anaconda 1.1 costal capret pythons 4.9 nile monitor 1.1 croc monitors 4.6 dwarf caimans 1.3 amarican aligator plus some others you forgot the 10 rabbits bro! lolz sorry had to say it.... sorry if your mad at me

lakeridgekennel

12-06-04, 03:31 PM

if your going to do that then my 10 dogs 2 cats 3 birds and over 1200 head of cattel have to go up two
i'm kinda mad but i am never going to see you so whatever!

12-06-04, 03:50 PM

never going to see me?.... i'm thinking more and more your not rambo but ROCKY instead lol

Matt_K

12-06-04, 04:27 PM

You were both asked to grow up, is there a reason you haven't yet??? Cookie, if you're going to direct a comment at someone on the forum, at least get the name right.. It's 'lakeridgekennel' NOT 'lakeside'.

If you'd like to read more about yourself (Brother) I suggest you have a look at the BOI.. Located here: http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57724

Here are your brothers three posts..

Originally posted by mice_unlimited
yes those glue sticks the ones that go in a glue gun NEVER use tape...

Originally posted by mice_unlimited
CO2!!!!!!

Originally posted by mice_unlimited
I 100% agree Cookie

Never once did he post about selling mice or anything else on this site.. So, Im really not sure what you're talking about when you say, "NO actualy your wrong matt, my brother came to the site wanting to sell breeder mice and he was simply banned for it!!! " So, who's wrong now?????

-Matt

Shad0w

12-06-04, 04:52 PM

Cookie,

If clubed right, you should never see blood comming from the nose of a rabbit... I admit it does happen, but when the strike is good, on the base of the skull, there should be no EXTERNAL bleeding...

OH and on the gun thingy.. I agree.. it would be messy.. and a gun in most peoples hands is not the safest thing, no doubt.. but I thought you said you didnt think it was humane.. is that not whats at issue here? Human methods of killing?

12-06-04, 05:17 PM

I'll ask why he used my name ;) as far as mice go why don't you buy some and maybe you will see for yourself. I know there is no major money to make breeding mice and have stressed that many times before, not to detour people from geting into the trade but simply because it's true. He/We can offer the mice at such a low price and still make a bit of profit and i said abit of profit very easily. Mice are not only sold to reptile dealers or private partied strictly for food they are used in labs as well as sold to wholesalers... Wholesalers is where you lose money but selling to private people or to university etc there is money to make... as far as mice over 40 grams i can show you a lot of them and there only 3 months old or so. As far as us/me goes if you read my post my mice are even hand delivered as far as mississauga on a MONTHLY basis and all LARGE orders will be reserved for the spring. at 45 cents an adult (as anyone has the right to refuse an order as i said HAND DELIVERED) I never said i wanted to make millions or i would be shipping now won't i?...I also stated anyone in the montreal region may buy mice at the moment at 45 cents a mouse and have sold many :) ... So anyone in the montreal area wanting mice can buy them within 24 hours pickup or delivery I am not tryin to cut throats or conquer the mice market only want to bring the rate down as many pay up to 2$ a mouse in stores and don't trust shipping so that leaves local breeders open to the public. I can sell you 10.000 mice right now! but that would take my breeding stock away from me so i am holding off all orders of large quantity.... If you really want to shed light on anything call my bluff as mice_unlimited will have a site up and running with a live cam broadcast starting in Jan 2005 :) I feel no need to prove myself as my mice will do the speaking for me and in no time people will realize and come to us anyways at the moment we are basicly big enoguh to handle quebec and quebec alone UNTIL the spring of 2005 when projections should be reality and until then we offer only in the quebec region send us someone from montreal to see our business and our ethics as we have nothing to hide and actualy can show you just how fast and effective co2 really is until then you can only assume. I am not being rude here just reply to your post matt so don't take it the wrong way please. I am not making it up we only handle quebec at the moment. so anyone wanting 35-40 gram mice at 45 cents per 100 in quebec feel free to contact mice_unlimited@hotmail.com there will be a live cam in jan 2005 and a site for you to go to but anyone wanting in montreal feel free to contact us thanks :)

12-06-04, 05:22 PM

Shadow your right but he was a guy that has NEVER killed before and always bought frozen. I agree with you trust me but i had a guy come in one day wanting to kill his mice himself and not with co2 (the hard surface way) after 2-3 shots his first mouse it was time to step in so imagine a rabbit... my comments were not towards lake on the rambo etc it was directed to the dude wanting pics of the actual task. anyways no matter what i'll say a prayer for the rodents tonight after witnessing the posts

12-06-04, 05:26 PM

oh and matt he did post the mice it was deleted along with his account

HeatherRose

12-06-04, 05:38 PM

If your brother was banned, his posts are by no means 'deleted'. Nothing is really ever deleted on ssnakess.com, it's moved. A quick search on his name reveals he never posted mice of any kind for sale in any capacity.

Matt_K

12-06-04, 05:41 PM

Cookie.. Leave the sales pitch for the classifieds.. I didn't ask how your business was run or how you handle your mice.. I simply stated that your 'brother' who is a twin........ wait..... Triplet posted THREE times, just like YOU stated, and I even went as far as to show you ALL of his posts, yet you're still saying another one was deleted?? 3+1=4 NOT 3.... and if one was deleted of the three you said he made... 3-1=2...

-Matt

12-06-04, 06:20 PM

no matt he posted 4 times the fourth got deleted along with his account

12-06-04, 06:25 PM

it kind of gave me the notion that unless your favored on here don't try sell your mice or you will be banned... anyways so what he is banned, he's still selling them anyways and i will be to! So lets see when i place my add if i get banned.

Matt_K

12-06-04, 06:28 PM

I swear he had 3 posts 1 was on something snake related so was the second post he was saying he agreed with me on a co2 issue all he said was "i agree with cookie" as he breeds mice and i get them from him....

then...

no matt he posted 4 times the fourth got deleted along with his account

You really need to make up your mind.. And once again, WE DO NOT DELETE ACCOUNTS OR POSTS!!!

it kind of gave me the notion that unless your favored on here don't try sell your mice or you will be banned... anyways so what he is banned, he's still selling them anyways and i will be to! So lets see when i place my add if i get banned.

At what point will you just drop an issue?? Your 'brother' wasn't banned for trying to sell mice.. End of discussion..

-Matt

marisa

12-06-04, 06:35 PM

No one is banned for trying to sell mice, ever. ssnakess.com has no preferance, bias or monetary gain or loss regardless who is posting ads. It's that simple. Not since I have been a mod, and not since I became a member in the relative begining of this website do people get banned because the website doesn't want them selling mice.

The mods explained why he was banned. If you cannot believe that, I am sorry. But this thread is no longer the place to discuss this. Email and private message are available to you for any issues you might continue to have.

Marisa