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Shad0w
12-03-04, 10:23 AM
Okay,

This has got to be the smallest snake Ive ever seen.. I just had to post it:

Its a ring neck snake found in Brisbane, it is venemous yet harmless...

I just cannot get over its size!

http://www.aussiepythons.com/albums/album22/zz55.sized.jpg

blazinreps
12-03-04, 10:31 AM
wow thats pretty damn tiny. We have some small redbellied snakes here but iv never seen a snake that small.

Vengeance
12-03-04, 10:44 AM
What does it eat? Pinhead crickets, very small fish?

CamHanna
12-03-04, 10:47 AM
That is absolutely tiny!!

I've only ever found a few ringnecks... I love when they do this,
http://img43.exs.cx/img43/7246/be-Mod.jpg
Defensive posture of a Southern Ringneck, Homestead Florida

JD@reptiles
12-03-04, 11:10 AM
what makes it venomous?

Simon
12-03-04, 11:15 AM
now that's a small snake~~
lol~~!!
Cutest little thing ever!!

snakehunter
12-03-04, 11:16 AM
yeah Im pretty sure they arent venomous. They eat worms, manders and just about anything they can fit in their mouth, I hear they will even eat snakes.

BWSmith
12-03-04, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by JD@reptiles
what makes it venomous?

Fangs and venom glands ;)

Technically it IS venomous, but it can't really bite and the venom is harmless to humans. It is not even considered venomous despite its physiology.

We have TONS of them down here. We have both the Southern and Northern Ringnecks. The largest one I have ever found was 18"!!! They feed primarily on small insects and worms. They may not bite, but they are very good at musking. They are also toxic to ophidiophages.

Shad0w
12-03-04, 11:16 AM
Here ya go guys:

http://www.epa.qld.gov.au/nature_conservation/wildlife/nocturnal_animals/reptiles/whitecrowned_snake/

States:

White-crowned snakes can grow to 40cm and are venomous but not classed as dangerous.

BWSmith
12-03-04, 11:18 AM
While Crowned Snakes and Ringnecks are similar, they are not even in the same Genus.

Shad0w
12-03-04, 11:20 AM
Sorry BWSmith,

I made a mistake on the name.. the caption for the pic says its a White crowned snake.. was my boo boo... Ive corrected my original post :)

CamHanna
12-03-04, 11:30 AM
http://www.epa.qld.gov.au/nature_co...ecrowned_snake/ Very cool link but the species in question is the ringneck snake (Diadophis punctatus)

From Tennant, 2003 (Snakes of North America, Eastern and Central), page 74
Harmless to humans and traditionally classed as nonvenomous, ringneck snakes actually have a mildly toxic saliva to aid in overcoming their small prey.

From Tennant, 2003 (Snakes of North America, Eastern and Central), page 75
The salivery glands of this group secrete enzymes that slowly immobilize their tiny prey, but ringnecks almost never bite when handled and are not dangerous.

Garter snakes are also venomous. Bryan Fry's proved that nearly every colubrid is (his site is www.venomdoc.com). I have amylase in my saliva to break down starch. To a potato I AM VENOMOUS!!

Cam

Shad0w
12-03-04, 11:35 AM
Hhehe.. Guess I was right in the first place and the original link was wrong :)

http://www.aussiepythons.com/modules.php?set_albumName=album22&id=zz55&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_photo.php

Ill move it back to ringneck :)

CamHanna
12-03-04, 11:41 AM
Huh, perhaps it is not Diadophis? Very, very similar tough.

BWSmith
12-03-04, 11:43 AM
Wait, you caught that in Australia? I didn't even know they had Ringnecks there.

joey
12-03-04, 11:44 AM
very cool...

Shad0w
12-03-04, 01:14 PM
See.. its gottta be white crowned then... ... arg.. Im so confused :)

BTW... no I didnt catch it.. LOL my original post was about the fact its so small :)

Jayson
12-03-04, 07:11 PM
My Aussi snakes and other reptiles book Has what they call a dwarf crowned snake in it, and it looks very similar to the pic. The book reguards it as venomous but not dangerous.

Jayson
12-03-04, 07:13 PM
(Cacophis krefftii) Scientific name

SadisticPsycho
12-03-04, 07:18 PM
That is one small snake. o_o....

proud2bcanadian
12-03-04, 07:44 PM
That's really cool!
It must be only about 2'' or 3''!
Thanks for sharing!

DeadlyDose
12-13-04, 10:55 AM
OMG that is a really small snake !!!!!!