Male or Female Vieled

[homebrewed]

How to check the sex of chameleons? Something to do with spurs on the ankles?
Also, are males generally more aggro?

[Bartman]

Yep, you got it. Males with have spurs on their back feet.

Most veilds in general are aggressive, but with most reptiles, usually females are less aggressive as they dont have the territorial instinct most males do...usually :)

[homebrewed]

As far as looks go, males tend to be a fair bit more attractive and colorful?

I've got everything I need for a great setup, and read as much as I can find. But most sites don't really say much aside from care.
I've got an old sunglasses display case that is 20x20x40 and used it for my crested geckos (which are gone now), if I knocked out the door and the back, and had 2 screens in place, would that provide suffient ventilation?

[Bartman]

If you have a screen on the top and one on the side for lets say the door, then yea that should be fine. Not the best, but fine.

I heard they can see their own reflection, and especially for males, can be stressful, but I personally have not seen these actions.

Yep, your right about the males, as far as I understand they usually have more colors like the reds and even blue's most females never have. My buddy picked up a nice male not to long ago for a great price, and ive never seen such variation in a male. Its got some AMAZING reds!!

My male isnt half as colorful, or hes still to young to have his final colors, but I hope he ends up the same :D

[Manitoban Herps]

Hey there Tim,
I keep my adult Male veiled in a display cabient, with 3 sides wood, one glass, He has done fine in it for years.

That one where you work is a female I beleive.

[homebrewed]

Originally posted by Manitoban Herps
That one where you work is a female I beleive.

I'm pretty sure too. I'll be checking it out in a few hours. I hoping I can trade in some baby leo's for it.

[Manitoban Herps]

Cool, you should enjoy the veileds, there awesome little fellas, one problem with the females, when they become 6+ months you have to make sure to give them the right amount of calcium and a sutiable place for her to lay her eggs or else she could become egg bound, even if you do not breed her.

[homebrewed]

Yup its female

Good to know about the egg thing. Thanks :)

I love feeding the little girl crickets from my fingers... and that darn rudis.

Anothe quick question. What do most people use for the UV? 2.0, 5.0, or 8.0. I'm assuming the 5 or 8.

[peterm15]

8 is what i use but my encolosure its 5' tall... i think thats whats recomended in the lighting book you can get at some pet stores.

try to keep any plants a little away from the side... my guy got stressed when he was in the glass enclosure cause hed always reach for the outside but the glass stopped him...

when it comes to reflections i BELIEVE, im not sure but i think that chams cant see them.. i know there is sonething to do with the perception or the kind of sight but its the same reason why they need moving water they can see the glimer but not the reflections.... or they cant see outside of glass...

when it comes to the enclosure id suggest getting something larger in a short time... i built mine for about 100 bucks but you can build a 5 foot tall by 3.' wide for under 50 bucks... mine is an upside down L shape that is 5' tall by 5' at the top and about 3' at the bottom.... its 150 gal. mine also has a shelf for my leos and supplies... just a suggestion...

[Collide]

Female Veilds will not become eggbound if not breed

this is a common myth.

What they do need is to not be allowed to become overweight and produce huge amounts off eggs, once a female is around 6ish months old regulating there diet may be nessessary to maintain a good weight, as well as a good eye to watch out for signs of her being gravid. I fat female will produce alot of eggs and the more eggs she has the larger a toll it will take on her,


As for that rudis post a pic id love too see it.

B

[homebrewed]

Originally posted by Collide

As for that rudis post a pic id love too see it.

B

Thanks for the help

The rudis is at the petstore I work with. I've been debating between the 2, but decided to go with the vieled. I'll try and bring a camera down and snap some shots this week.

[Manitoban Herps]

Collide, thnaks for the info about the females can not become eggs bound if not bred, I read it so much I though it must be true :p

I love that rudis too Tim, cute little guy eh?

[CarlC]

I don't know who came up with the thought that chams cannot see reflections. Put your male cham in front of a mirror and see what happens. Clean glass at the right angle can be almost as reflective as a mirror.

They sure can see outside the glass. Thats why you see them trying to climb the wallswhen in something glass. They see what is outside the tank and are trying to get to it.

Females are just as sensitive. They might not show it as gaping or rocking but being male or female does not change things.

Depending on the species females can be the domanant sex. Species like deremensis live in female groups. Theyhave the best basking spots. Males are fored to the center. Younger males are forced lower.

Carl

[homebrewed]

Great info.
Thanks everyone. :)

[peterm15]

thanks for ckearin that up for me to... i read it somewhere but i cant remember...