View Full Version : My Favourite Boa in my collection! Guess what Morph
Can anyone guess what Morph this guy is? He is definitely my favourite one in the collection. He will be put to breeding an a few months time. He will have Salmons, Anerys, Both strain of Albinos( Kahl and Sharp) and some beautiful normals to breed with. I just hope he's a horny boy!!:D
Here are a few photos of him
http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/508/435DSC09989ss-med.jpg
http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/508/435DSC09990ss-med.jpg
http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/508/435DSC09992ss-med.jpg
http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/508/435DSC09986ss-med.jpg
BOAS_N_PYTHONS
11-26-04, 01:48 AM
KAHANE:
Very nice indeed, from our chat its a "well I know but will keep it a secret" wink wink , very nice :)
Keep us posted.
Cya...
Tony Pharosx
CARLiTO_
11-26-04, 07:08 AM
Jungle
Very nice looking snake!!
JAdkins2451
11-26-04, 11:47 AM
looks awsome
Well, what is it then? My guess would be het for something, as it doesn't look like anything but a very nice normal to me.
Dave
Or, could it be one of those crazy caramel albinos? Come on don't keep us guessing!
Dave
It's nice to see more boa breeder's in canada working with jungle's.
I thought we were the only one's.I have a jungle stripe male i got in the states 2 year's ago he is breeding a normal female this year hope all goes well.
Hey Shawn, do you have any pics of yours???
-Matt
Hey matt shoot me an email.I can't seem to post pictures on this site.
boadude2003@yahoo.com
Jungle? I really don't see it, if thats a jungle then I've been producing them here without even knowing it and selling them as normals. What exactly makes this snake different enough to merit it morph status? The only difference i can see is the head looks more like a bcc than a bci. Someone please explain.
Dave
HumphreyBoagart
11-26-04, 04:20 PM
No $#!T Dave
David Kwok
11-26-04, 04:33 PM
At first I thought it might be a columbian caramel, but I think its a Jungle now.
Dave
Again what makes it a jungle?
Dave
I'm pretty sure it's a Jungle since he mentions a Jungle in his other recent post. Not the most drastic Jungle I've ever seen but it's the genes that count.
I agree with Dave, if indeed this snake is a Jungle, what distinguishes it from being normal? I don't see any aberrancies in it's pattern, and isn't that what makes a jungle a jungle? :confused:
It looks like a really vibrant, nice normal to me as well. However, the T+ albinos also look like bright normals as adults to me. Hehehe... 'tis the reason if I was ever to get in to morphs, I would most certainly be sticking with the no-brainer ones :D Nobody could argue a snow was a normal! :p
A few jungle pics I found...
http://www.pkreptiles.com/extended/pop.asp?src=boas/jungle/jungle_10
http://www.pkreptiles.com/extended/pop.asp?src=boas/jungle/jungle_13
http://www.pkreptiles.com/extended/pop.asp?src=boas/jungle/jungle_11
T+ Albino...
http://vpi.com/TposBoas/TposBoasPages/TposBoaGallery.htm
Scales Zoo
11-26-04, 05:10 PM
Maybe it is his favorite snake becuause it is normal, and a nice looking normal at that - and the "guess what kind of morph it is" question was loaded.
ding ding ding?
If it is expensive, then I'm sorry Kahane, for calling it a normal - but please enlighten me to as what it is.
(or maybe het for snow - kinda looks like it, hehe)
Ryan
Jungle boas, caramel-albino boas? I'm lost.
25 years ago we had beautiful common boas and the 'red-tail' craze was just starting. But we were producing beautiful boas with nice colours anyway and just put it off to marketing.
Time has proven me wrong!
BoAddict
11-26-04, 05:43 PM
if any1 has followed jungle threads on the other site then calling something a jungle as a marketing scheme is a bad idea as there is so much controversy about this morph.
just some food for thought
very nice boa
The only thing that I can see that is not "normal" is the face markings( the mask) they look very light in colour.
Scales Zoo
11-26-04, 07:06 PM
A friend told me this snake was a jungle, and if it is, then I appologize for my above post, as I thought it might be a nice common that you really liked.
Kahane, anyone, what makes it a jungle?
Ryan
Scales Zoo
11-26-04, 07:11 PM
And Matt, buddy, can you post the pictures of Shawns jungle?
Ryan
Shelia if you want to see pictures you know my email.
Well, jungle being a dominant trait as opposed to recessive, there are only jungles and super jungles. No hets with these guys, just like pastel balls. Every picture I've seen of them show some kind of pattern aberancies, at the very least a weird stripey tail. If it came from a litter that had jungles in it doesn't make it a jungle because as i understand it, with dominant traits it is all or nothing. Regardless of morph though, it is a very gorgeous snake.
Dave
Gary D.
11-26-04, 07:40 PM
The most typical Jungle trait is the lack of side markings connecting to the saddles. These usually affect the first couple tail saddles too. Also the aberrant sadles are common. This being what I have seen from the pics from breeders in the US, not in person. And I can see where the back 3rd is definately lacking them.
I'm not saying it isn't (I'm not the breeder, nor a breeder of jungles), but it would not have been my first guess either. Let the genetics prove out. Hope it breeds well for you.
GD
Scales Zoo
11-26-04, 08:34 PM
Originally posted by boa
Shelia if you want to see pictures you know my email.
It is Ryan! See how I signed my name!
And my wifes name is spelled Sheila!
grrr!!!!
Ryan
R-Y-A-N
Ryan Wunsch
Ryan Ryan, bo byan, me my fo fyan.... Ryan
He is indeed a Jungle Boa, He's from the True Swedish Bloodlines. The lines that are recognized as the True Jungle Boas.
As for a discription of the Jungles and it's genetics. It iis a co-dominat form and the Super frorm woutld be the Super Jungles. Which is arguably the best looking boa Morph out there. As for their Traits, GaryD Pretty much sums it up, but there are different degrees of abberrency is saddles and lack of side patterns. As you can see this one is not an extreme Jungle but he does have the traits, although it's subtle. It's all in the genes:)
As with any new or rare Morphs, there's alot of fake ones that might look similar. The Most important thing when acquiring a rare morph is to deal with a reputable BREEDER that will guarentee the genetics of the snake. when I was looking to investing into Jungles or Super Jungles, I went to 2 of the top Boa Breeders. Especially for Jungle boas, not many people have bred them. I located Peter Kahl and Jeremy Stone for my Jungles. This way I will not get any fake wanna be Jungles but only the real deal Swedish bloodlines. This one came from Jeremy Stone.
Thanks everyone for replying to this thread:)
Shawn where did you get your Jungle from? and could you post a photo? I'm sure he is nice.
Gary D.
11-27-04, 05:28 PM
It's good to see some one with foresight and an understanding that good genetics go beyond the most eye popping line bred specimins on the market.
GD
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