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Classic
11-24-04, 06:03 PM
I am proud to announce the addition of a new sub-species of Milksnake to my collection. I was fortunate enough to be offered this unusual pair from Paul at BigHillReptiles.
Many thanks Paul.

Unfortunately, i now have to tell Paul not to come over anymore...Each visit to my place by Paul has increased my snake numbers by 4 or more respectively. He knows i have a hard time saying no to a milk when its put in my face. lol!

In addition to the Staurt's, i also allowed Paul to increase my Sinaloan collection to 5 with the introduction of a stunning pair of spotted Sinaloans.

My My My. I only wanted 1.1 of each. I'm not greedy. I didnt intend on having 10 of each sub species but its certainly running that way.

Enjoy the picks.

I'm always on the look out for milk sub species that i dont already have.

Thanks

Brian
HighWaterHerps

Stuarts
http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/500/1478DCP_00061-med.jpg
Stuarts
http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/500/1478DCP_00041-med.jpg
Sinaloan
http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/500/1478DCP_00101-med.jpg
sinaloan
http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/500/1478DCP_00091-med.jpg

Katt
11-24-04, 06:25 PM
Very nice!

I'm very jealous of the stuart's, I know them as the Nicaraguan milksnake and I, being Nicaraguan, would like one.

jim mcallister
11-24-04, 06:37 PM
Very nice Brian,,,,maybe you better come back to NB where there won't be so many temptations..... :)

Classic
11-24-04, 07:15 PM
Jim: New Brunswick's herpers numbers are growing fast and that "no temptation" luxury would be a short term thing i think.

How those hondos/pueblans?

Brian
HWH

Will
11-25-04, 01:15 AM
More fine additions to a great collection. Congrats... :D

bighillreptiles
11-25-04, 06:56 AM
Well Brian im glad you like them have fun and hope to see some new little ones in the spring LOL best of luck :Paul Big Hill Reptiles

MarcB
11-25-04, 07:19 AM
Very nice Brian, can't be too many triangulum missing in your collection now!

Way to go Mr. Milkman...

Tim_Cranwill
11-25-04, 09:41 AM
Good stuff! So, what is left on the list, buddy? :)

Simon
11-25-04, 09:50 AM
Very nice~~!!

Go milkman!!!

vanderkm
11-25-04, 10:19 AM
Congrats on the new additions Brian - interesting abberant pattern on the tail of the Stuarts.

Very interesting Sinaloans also. congrats,

mary v.

Classic
11-25-04, 11:49 AM
Tim: Heres the big list.

Marc: A couple more to go. Keep an eye out for me.

Thanks for the nice comments all.

Milksnakes in possesion.
Andean Milksnake - Lampropeltis triangulum andesiana
Black Milksnake - Lampropeltis triangulum gaigeae
Conant's Milksnake - Lampropeltis triangulum conanti
Honduran Milksnake - Lampropeltis triangulum hondurensis
Mexican Milksnake - Lampropeltis triangulum annulata
Nelson's Milksnake - Lampropeltis triangulum nelsoni
Pueblan Milksnake - Lampropeltis triangulum campbelli
Sinaloan Milksnake - Lampropeltis triangulum sinaloae
Stuart's Milksnake - Lampropeltis triangulum stuarti

Milksnake unattainable due to local restrictions.
Eastern Milksnake

Milksnakes required
Atlantic Central American Milksnake - Lampropeltis triangulum polyzona
Blanchard's Milksnake - Lampropeltis triangulum blanchardi
Central Plains Milksnake - Lampropeltis triangulum gentilis
Coastal Plains Milksnake - Lampropeltis doliata temporalis
Dixon's Milksnake - Lampropeltis triangulum dixoni
Equadoran Milksnake - Lampropeltis triangulum micropholis
Guatemala Mliksnake - Lampropeltis triangulum abnorma
Jalisco Milksnake - Lampropeltis triangulum arcifera
Louisiana Milksnake - Lampropeltis triangulum amaura
New Mexico Milksnake - Lampropeltis triangulum celaenop
Pacific American Milksnake - Lampropeltis triangulum oligozona
Pale Milksnake - Lampropeltis triangulum multi striata
Red Milksnake - Lampropeltis triangulum syspila
Scarlet Kingsnake - Lampropeltis triangulum elapsoides
Smith's Milksnake - Lampropeltis triangulum smithi
Utah Milksnake - Lampropeltis triangulum taylori



Please keep me in mind if you ever come accross the opportunity to attain any of this sub-species.

Thanks

Brian
HighWaterHerps

Manitoban Herps
11-25-04, 03:51 PM
Cool, I bet you have the most species of milks in Canada.

Good stuff, there's a nice ladie out my way who is getting a pair of pales soon, so keep her in mind :)

Classic
11-25-04, 08:52 PM
Pales would be a great find. I think i've only seen them for sale a couple times.

But on the other hand, this is the first time i've seen Staurts for sale.

Brian
hwh

Andy_G
11-26-04, 01:15 PM
I really like the stuarts!

vanderkm
11-26-04, 02:25 PM
I am really not familiar enough with different milk species to know the features that are distinctive about Stuart's. Is it mostly about scale counts or is the relatively high triad count and the crossing over and meeting of the black rings with relatively narrow red bands distinctive to this species?

There have been a lot of various milk species displayed lately on alternate sites but I haven't seen any other pictures of Stuart's there - they must be relatively uncommon.

Thanks for any additional info on these - seems the more I see these different tricolor milks the more they start to look alike to me!

mary v.

Classic
11-26-04, 03:31 PM
Hi Mary, A couple distinguishing features of the Stuarts are;
1. The broken white band on top of the head passing through the rear part of the Parietal scales. The Pacific American Milksnake also has this feature but the Stuarts have a much higher ring count.

Brian
hwh

vanderkm
11-26-04, 04:44 PM
Interesting Brian - I really have to get a better book on milksnake species. Good luck with these new guys,

mary v.

jim mcallister
11-26-04, 10:45 PM
Brian, the milks are doing fine......Your right its hard to fight the temptations, even here in the little ol' maritimes.

Classic
11-28-04, 09:51 AM
Mary: Uncle Roy has a really good milksnake book. The name escapes me at the moment but i also need to get myself a copy.

Brian
hwh