View Full Version : Olive pythons, anyone?
bistrobob85
11-10-04, 09:32 PM
I would like to know who works with Liasis Olivaceous, i've been looking up for some infos about those amazing olive snakes and i'd be pretty happy to know who has some ( and possibly breeding some )... If you do, pics would be appreciated, those pythons are not well known!!!
phil.
BoidsUnlimited
11-10-04, 09:38 PM
I know they get large and heavy:) Keep that in mind.
bistrobob85
11-10-04, 09:42 PM
seems like they're only 8-11 feet, with most snakes only reaching 8 feet...
BoidsUnlimited
11-10-04, 09:50 PM
I have hear of 12-15ft as well.
But as I said, very heavy bodied!
LdyDrgn
11-10-04, 10:16 PM
Olives are AMAZING! We are waiting for a friend to breed his so we can get ours. Some pics of our visit with them:
http://primareptilia.com/gallery/albums/KYtoPA/Olive.sized.jpg
http://primareptilia.com/gallery/albums/KYtoPA/Olive_2.sized.jpg
http://primareptilia.com/gallery/albums/KYtoPA/Olive_6.sized.jpg
http://primareptilia.com/gallery/albums/KYtoPA/Olive_7.sized.jpg
http://primareptilia.com/gallery/albums/KYtoPA/Olive_love.sized.jpg
:D
bistrobob85
11-10-04, 11:55 PM
HAAAAAAAAAAA they look so BEAUTIFUL!!! Ldydrgn, what size are your friend's olives? And also, how old are the snakes on the pics? It would be pretty important to know whats the official average size... Boidsunlimited, i've never seen a very large or heavy olive ( in fact, i've only seen pics, but never any of a large olive... ). They look very thin and long, and AWESOME!!
Stockwell
11-11-04, 01:38 AM
Olive Pythons were being bred in Canada back in the late 80's, early 90's. Matt Moyle had some huge ones, and the female had a history of getting egg bound, and required surgery, but did produce.
I was present one day when eggs were hatching. Cute little guys, from large eggs about the size of Pine snake eggs, slightly smaller than burm eggs.
There are still some Olives in Canada, but not many. I have not heard of any captive breedings in a very long time.
It's no longer possible to get US specimens, as CITES permits are rarely available for exporting Australian wildlife out of the US.
Here's a digital photo of one of my old 35mm prints.
Canadian bred and hatched Olives, hatching in a Rubbemaid dish pan, in sphagnum, the typical egg media of that era, over a decade ago
http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/500/1801Olives-med.jpg
bistrobob85
11-11-04, 01:43 AM
It would be pretty wise if people got their Olives together to breed a little before the canadian line gets extincted...
Invictus
11-11-04, 02:04 AM
I have a friend here in Calgary who will be producing them next year. Between he and another buddy, there will be 3 clutches to choose from next year if all goes well, cross fingers, knock wood!
Olives are very cool.... almost as cool as my papuans, hehehehe
bistrobob85
11-11-04, 02:21 AM
Excellent! I'm just glad to see that there are actually people willing to reproduce them! Canadians Olives are saved! And i might also pic one up if they dont grow too huge and behave well...
phil.
Originally posted by bistrobob85
i've never seen a very large or heavy olive ( in fact, i've only seen pics, but never any of a large olive... ). They look very thin and long, and AWESOME!!
Here ya go:
http://home.insightbb.com/~gekoz/olive.jpg :p
bistrobob85
11-11-04, 11:41 AM
Wow, now thats a big one! Still, it's not as large as a BCI... It sure is big, but not impossible to handle, i guess ( am i mistaking on this one? ).
Henry Piorun also used to have a pair or two.
bistrobob85
11-11-04, 12:05 PM
How is their temper?
Invictus
11-11-04, 12:12 PM
Their temperament is typical liasis when they are babies - snappy and irritable. However, they grow to be known as the "gentle giants" of the liasis family. Adult specimens are an absolute joy to work with.
For those who haven't seen Papuan pythons, they are very similar to Olives, but WAAAAAAAY bigger. Adult specimens commonly reach 10-14 feet, and about 80lbs. But they have the same loveable personalitites, lol Here are some pics for those who haven't seen them:
http://www.invictusexotics.com/images/Lucifer02.jpg
http://www.invictusexotics.com/images/Ken_Satan02.jpg
They are slow maturing, but hopefully I'll be able to produce captive babies in 2007 or so.
bistrobob85
11-11-04, 12:34 PM
Wow Ken! Your papuans look great! It's thrue that they look alot like the Olives! I have to say i still prefer the olives, they're a little smaller :)
Invictus
11-11-04, 01:31 PM
haha... believe me, smaller IS better when their mouths are flying at you. :D
bistrobob85
11-11-04, 01:37 PM
Do they still remain nippy even as adults??? I wouldn't want a bad tempered 8 + footer... Aren't they the ''gentle giants'' of the genus Liasis? What would you compare their mature behavior to, BCI? Burm? Scrub python?
That large olive blows my mind. I had no idea any liasis got that big.
Anyone know why papuans got their own genus rather than being included in liasis?
rg
Invictus
11-12-04, 03:23 PM
Papuans are VERY different from ANY liasis out there. Their skulls are much shorter with stubbier noses, the inside of their mouth is completely black, the scalation is different especailly in the head, they are from Papua New Guinea, not Australia..... and so on.
Bistro - My largest Papuan is a 9.5 foot female. She's quite calm despite being wild caught. It seems the smaller they are in my collection, the more nasty. Likewise, I don't know of too many aggressive adult Olives either.
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