Alice In Crested Land.

[little_dragon_]

When I opened the lid of one of my enclosures, I found a mushroom growing in the bedding! I'm a little shocked with this one. I've seen mold in humid tanks but never a mushroom. What should do? I think it's time for a poll.

A: Should I eat it?
B: Should I Let It Grow
C: Remove it from the tank because my Cresteds might eat it and could be harmfull?

[BoidsUnlimited]

Let that thing grow OUTSIDE of the tank.....SHROOMS ROCK!

Haha I'm just joking of course.

But I wouldnt think it would hurt, but I wouldnt know. So best would be to remove it IMO.

Thanks,

B.U.

[HeatherRose]

What on earth kind of husbandry conditions do you have that would allow a mushroom to grow inside your enclosure?

[CDN-Cresties]

Remove it would be the best opition.

[beanersmysav]

haha sounds like someone planted a spore in your tank, I had someone plant a seed in my savannahs tank awhile back I removed it as soon as I saw it sprouting but if you use dirt from outside i guess theres always a chance of some kind of spore or plant in there although ive never heard of anyone using outside dirt for their crested, but yea remove it unless you can identify it as harmless, if you post a picture im sure someone will know what it is, but ya what the hell did you do to get a mushroom growing, thats a fungus, that cant be good, haha and definatly dont eat it more than likely you'll get a stomache ache, possibly die, trip face, or have a teaser to your appetite and i dont know if you want any of those, I wasn't one for tripping back in my day so I wouldn't like any of those options myself :)

[BoidsUnlimited]

I thought it would be "cool" to try shrooms once.

Had a trip, saw the Easter Bunny and heard scary voices.

Not a good time.

I stick to grocery bought Mushrooms now:)

But ya get a picture of it lol!

[little_dragon_]

Originally posted by HeatherRose
What on earth kind of husbandry conditions do you have that would allow a mushroom to grow inside your enclosure?


I take very good care of my geckos so I would have to say optimal conditions

[Matt_K]

Optimal Conditions wouldn't allow fungus to grow in your enclosures.. Im also not sure as to why you would want to keep it in the cage..

BoidsUnlimited.. I don't believe it's THAT type of Mushroom.. So, no need to talk about past experiences..

-Matt

[little_dragon_]

Originally posted by Matt_K
Optimal Conditions wouldn't allow fungus to grow in your enclosures.. Im also not sure as to why you would want to keep it in the cage..

-Matt


No sense of humour?
The A,B,C was a joke do you really think I'd keep it in the cage?

Are you saying a mushroom can't grow in the optimal conditions for a crested gecko?. Is there no mushrooms growing in New Caledonia during the peak of their mating season? One started growing in my tank and I care for my geckos with the upmost respect, awareness, knowledge, and responsibility.

[HeatherRose]

Is there no mushrooms growing in madagascar during the peak of their mating season?

It's admirable that you mirror the conditions of Madagascar. Now, if only crested geckos were actually FROM Madagascar, not the island of New Caledonia, off the east of Australia. http://www.pitbullforum.com/images/smiles/thumbsup.gif

To further my point, disease and fungus do exist in the wild. Does that mean it's okay to let fungus/mold grow in my cage? Yummy.

[Matt_K]

Yes, I dO have a sense of humour, but Why would you eveN jokE about something like that? i Don't understand it.. so, are you honestly posting a question to whether you should remove it, or was this whole thread a joke???

[little_dragon_]

got mixed with uroplatus for a sec..and like I said the mushroom must grew over night..It wasn't there last night.

I thought it was amusing I found a mushroom in their enclosure so I thought I'd share the humour with others..some understood.

[HeatherRose]

Yeah, and those who 'saw the humour' immediatley related it to past drug experiences. Hi-larious. Sorry if I fail to see the humour. Anyway, I think you should probably remove it. Too high of humidity causes fungus growth, which is synominous with high bacterial growth. This isn't the wild, this is an enclosure in captivity.

[Brock]

In my experience, I find that lichens, fungus and mosses grow in optimal conditions. I would see this as a good thing, so long as your enclosure only has a few and is not overrun with them. Personally, I'd keep it in there so long as it's not purple, orange, red, yellow or anything bright. When there consistent and overcrowding mold growing, or slimy funguses, then you should dry out your tank and get some new substrate and moss, if you're using moss.

-Brock

[StickyToes]

Too high of a humidity is definitely not a cause of mushroom growth. Conditions have to be optimal for any sporophytic organism to grow, and these conditions are met for basidiomycota in a wide variety of conditions. Just because the fruiting body of a mushroom has appeared in little dragon's cage doesn't automatically mean that the husbandry of these geckos needs to be called into question. Mushroom growth is also not synonymous with "bad" bacterial growth in an ecosystem. Fungi are part of nature's way of breaking down organic materials, and mushrooms are not the same as some of the parasitic molds that commonly cause illness in animals.
I can definitely see the humour in this as I've seen it occur in even newly set up vivariums. Part of the fun and challenge of setting up a naturalistic tank is all the weird variables you can encounter from some of the enclosures "occupants".
I'd be worried about the possibility of crickets consuming some of the mushroom and passing any toxins along to the geckos. What kind of bedding are you using for them? I've seen this occur in some of the commercially available beddings that are supposed to be sterilized. I use paper towels for my crested enclosures, but use organic "mixes" for my Phelsuma, Uroplatus, and will be using the same for my R.chahoua when they are old enough to move into their planted tanks.
Sarcasm is apparently hard to get across over the internet! :rolleyes: ;)
I'm kinda surprised at the somewhat childish nitpicking that a couple of the people on this thread have posted. :thumbsup:

[DragnDrop]

I've had mushrooms show up in Uroplatus tanks before. The substrate was that store bought 'sterilized and safe' forest mulch, can't think of the proper name for it right now. I wouldn't be surprised one could live in a Rhac enclosure.

Mushrooms don't come from seeds as has been stated already. Spores are so light weight, they can be blown about in the wind. With a bit of luck they'll land someplace where the conditions are right and before long you see the fruiting body of the fungus sitting in your tank (the mushroom isn't the real plant, but the fruit of the underground fungus).

Over the years I've had a lot of mushrooms appear in dart frog tanks, some with store bought substrate and others with 'wild caught' mosses I picked myself. The tanks weren't rotting cesspools, they were well planted, cared for with thriving plants and breeding frogs. There was no odour other than what you'd expect from a forest type environment. There's nothing like watching a dart frog zapping a fruit fly out of the holes in a morel. :)

If anything, mushrooms are part of the natural cycle, they help decompose organic matter to some extent. They're a sign of a healthy balanced eco-system, just another step in the Grand Recycling Scheme.

A couple of years ago I found a native fern growing in one of the dart tanks. I didn't plant it, but there it was, big as life. How'd it get there? The tank was near a window which is open almost all summer. The same ferns are growing just below the window, so I assumed some spores made it inside to the tank via the breeze. Does that mean the tank conditions were deplorable?

Even though this isn't a frog forum, it's just an example of how mushrooms can pop up indoors. I wouldn't say the husbandry is negligent. It can happen to anyone, even you.

If you can ID the mushroom and it's non-toxic, you could leave it in there, but be prepared for more of them showing up. If you want to remove it, you'll have to dig up more than the mushroom itself, since the actual 'plant' is in the soil. The only sure way is to replace the substrate.

[clint545]

My room mate had that happen to him once. He had a huge rubber tree, with organic soil, and we used to get tons of these little yellow mushrooms growing!

[CamHanna]

Originally posted by HeatherRose
It's admirable that you mirror the conditions of Madagascar. Now, if only crested geckos were actually FROM Madagascar, not the island of New Caledonia, off the east of Australia.
Originally Posted by Matt K
dO... Why... eveN... jokE... Don't

Oh, that was good.

[beanersmysav]

Yeah I'm surprised at the lack of humor some of the people who were less experienced in this subject had myself. Flipping out on the guy questioning his husbandry when it's obviously not a bad thing that a mushroom grew there. However I didn't see anyone say anything about mushrooms growing by seeds as someone posted, I posted they were spores, and that a seed was planted in my tank before and had a plant grow, so maybe thats why you got confused. But as someone else posted I too am surprised at some of the nit picking go on. Jeeze, do some research them criticize.

[little_dragon_]

Thanks for the positive words guys. The mushroom was the size of the top of my pinky finger. White with a bell cap. I tossed it in the garbage as soon as I found it just to be safe. Crickets hadn't got to it because I feed them 6 each every other night and they are gone within the hour. Cresteds never touched it because they ate CGD. I use moist coconut fiber I think I bought zoomed this time. The have three climbing logs and a huge golden pothos. I would have taken a pic if I had a digi cam.
I would just like to say that I didn't appreciate 2 mods jumping down my throat like that with unkind statements about my reptile conditions. I have read the forum rules and my post was not discriminating in anyway.
A mushroom is a part of nature and I choose to keep my crested geckos in live set ups. If you have a concern about my animal conditions feel free to visit me. I like showing people my geckos, we could chat and maybe eat some mushrooms.

[beanersmysav]

Originally posted by little_dragon_
If you have a concern about my animal conditions feel free to visit me. I like showing people my geckos, we could chat and maybe eat some mushrooms.

:D atleast you kept your sense of humor threw it all

[Matt_K]

I'm kinda surprised at the somewhat childish nitpicking that a couple of the people on this thread have posted.

Yes, childish nitpicking.. *eats some shrooms*.. Now Am I less childish??

Quote:
Originally posted by HeatherRose
It's admirable that you mirror the conditions of Madagascar. Now, if only crested geckos were actually FROM Madagascar, not the island of New Caledonia, off the east of Australia.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt K
dO... Why... eveN... jokE... Don't


Oh, that was good.

At least someone caught that sense of humour I apparently Lack.. :D Thanks CamHanna :thumbsup:

Yeah I'm surprised at the lack of humor some of the people who were less experienced in this subject had myself.

Less experience in what subject?? Growing Shrooms or doing them?? If you wanna share stories, send me a PM, we'll easily find out who has more experience in the subject.. :rolleyes:

But as someone else posted I too am surprised at some of the nit picking go on. Jeeze, do some research them criticize.

Thanks for your two cents.. I dunno what I would have done without it..

Are you saying a mushroom can't grow in the optimal conditions for a crested gecko?. Is there no mushrooms growing in New Caledonia during the peak of their mating season?

hehehe, love that edit feature.. :D (sorry, I better not laugh, I might get accused of HAVING a sense of humour)..

Great post Hilde!! Thanks for making me look like an idiot.. :thumbsup: HAHAHAA< just kidding.. :D (there's that sense of humour again)..

-Matt

[little_dragon_]

My bad,

New Caladoneia, Madagascar they both have geckos right? hee heee

[Matt_K]

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[beanersmysav]

Haha I didnt mean lack of experience in growing or doing shrooms. I was saying those who said negative things about shrooms growing in an enclosure. I'm sure you might have more experience doing shrooms than I do myself as I posted I was not into them myself, or most drugs for that matter. I was just saying that shrooms can grow in optimal conditions, as others have said. But I'm glad you are quite the day tripper matt, but I'd be glad to share some stories with you if you'd like :D unfortunatly mine is limited to about a bad 9 hour incident years ago so chances are you've got me beat. I got pretty sick off of portabella mushrooms before, but I still love em'

[Matt_K]

Originally posted by beanersmysav
But I'm glad you are quite the day tripper matt, but I'd be glad to share some stories with you if you'd like :D

Sorry, I was speaking in the past tense.. I don't do anything anymore.. Im all cleaned up now! :D

[beanersmysav]

haha me too thank god, feel much better now, herps are a much more satisfying drug truthfully, but thats what got me away from them, found something else to do to keep my busy because work and school definatly weren't fun enough to keep me occupied. I think breeding will be a great thing too even though I haven't started yet I can't wait to see the first heads pop out of those little crested eggs. Probably end up keeping most of them and setting up cages everywhere, however I'm sure I might have to sell a few here and there haha mainly just to pay for what it costs to feed them house them, etc. Would like to start a small business, but I don't know how successful it'd be so I might as well just do it for fun for now.

[Kimo]

What about starting a mushroom buisness on the side? you could sell to those kids who eat them maybe? might help keep all those babie cresteds lol

Josh

**edited for spelling**

[beanersmysav]

heh maybe if it wasnt a felony

[huhet]

Originally posted by DragnDrop
There's nothing like watching a dart frog zapping a fruit fly out of the holes in a morel. :)


there's a mushroom...well, ascomycete, that you can eat.

not to dig this up, but i've also recently discovered a good deal of basidioma (40 some odd fruiting bodies) in my pygmy chameleon cage lately. just another component in the mini ecosystem. here's a picture i snapped with a qx3. it's at 10x, so they're just little guys.

http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/500/4134Untitled.jpg

[Manitoban Herps]

I think it you remove the substrate and the mushroom and bleach your tank you should be fine buddy.

And for all of theses jokes, I think he shoulkd be able to do it if everyone else does it.....come one mods you guys make a joke every couple of posts, but he can't do one? Drugs is something which is probaly best not to say, but it says just joking of course, so whats the problem?

[marisa]

There is no problem??? You are the only one who sees a problem. Everyone in this thread, members, mods and all are making jokes.

Instead of going thread to thread to do nothing but watch for what you think is a problem, just enjoy the site. If we need your mod abilities I am sure you will get a pm. Matt and the other members are all making jokes, people aren't even arguing so why do you have to come here to stir up trouble?

Marisa
P.S. Not to mention this is an older thread that you had nothing to say about when it was still hapening actively.

[marisa]

11-07-04 03:56 AM -Thread started on this date

the last post in the "arguement" was this date:

11-08-04 07:38 PM

Over a MONTH ago.

Marisa

[Manitoban Herps]

Oh I wasn't even aware of the date, I though it was new, sure seems like there was a little problem too me. Just my opinions in all of theses threads, I am not looking for any trouble.

[marisa]

Well Kevin that's part of the problem. Everyone wants the site to run nice but then go about doing things like this. It's not productive.

In any case, if there is a problem with a post in the future, feel free to use the report post feature rather than dragging up problems in threads. :D

Marisa

[Manitoban Herps]

Cool, once again you make me happy, always solve something that could turn into a probelm within 1 or 2 posts :D