Help me ID my snake

[CARLiTO_]

Hey, I just bought this gurl today off snakepete. He told me it's a bcc but I am not sure. Can you guys help? He also said it's a Colombian but I highly doubt it because the coloration is so different that the Colombian BCI i used to have. I am thinking Central American. Don't mind the sock, Enjoy!

http://www.geocities.com/jadakiss_734/DSC00229.jpg

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http://www.geocities.com/jadakiss_734/DSC00231.jpg

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[foman]

Nice boa, looks like a colombian bci to me.

[BoidKeeper]

Why couldn't it be a Colombian BCC? All you have to do is count the saddles and wait for a shed and cound the ventral scales.
Cheers,
Trevor

[HeRpZ03]

I agree with BoidKeeper

[CARLiTO_]

Originally posted by BoidKeeper
Why couldn't it be a Colombian BCC? All you have to do is count the saddles and wait for a shed and cound the ventral scales.
Cheers,
Trevor

If i count the saddles, do i count the tail too?

[BoidKeeper]

Stop right above the vent. 21 or more for BCI.
Cheers,
Trevor

[CARLiTO_]

Originally posted by BoidKeeper
Stop right above the vent. 21 or more for BCI.
Cheers,
Trevor

don't want to be too much of a newbie but what's the vent?

[proud2bcanadian]

The excretory opening of the digestive tract in animals (*thanks to dictionary.com :p)

HTH,

[HeRpZ03]

Originally posted by proud2bcanadian
The excretory opening of the digestive tract in animals (*thanks to dictionary.com :p)

HTH,

Just had to sound sophisticated and smart huh? lol j/k. gotta love dictionary.com...and there's young people who visit the site so i'll translate into more common terms, vent = the bum hole lol

[BOA68]

As far as i know, there are no BCC from Columbia. They just advertise them as red tails to get more money for Columbian boas. They are all BCIs and i believe your snake is a BCI. Saddle count isn't always an accurate way to tell, but by looking at the snake he has about 21 or 22 saddles to where the vet is. His coloring is nowhere near a BCC either. How much did u pay for him?

[Alien_Regalis]

There are indeed BCC that range into Colombia, Boa68, however theyre rather rare in collections in US and canada. Id be willing to bet a dollar that its just a normal BCI. :D

[BoidKeeper]

There are Colombian BCC, check the Boa Constrictor Manual for starters. Also Jeff Rone has an article on his website where he claims that all Colombians are BCC.
Cheers,
Trevor

[CARLiTO_]

Originally posted by BOA68
As far as i know, there are no BCC from Columbia. They just advertise them as red tails to get more money for Columbian boas. They are all BCIs and i believe your snake is a BCI. Saddle count isn't always an accurate way to tell, but by looking at the snake he has about 21 or 22 saddles to where the vet is. His coloring is nowhere near a BCC either. How much did u pay for him?

$90, even for a bci. I still think it's a good deal. I only had my doubts because I had a bci before and the coloration was way different. It was a yellow/brown. This is a grey/dark grey.

[Linds]

A lot of neos have a grey colouration to them which they lose with age. Like Jeff said, with true Colombian Bcc being so rare in collections, it is highly unlikely, additionally so for such a low price. In contrast, Colombians have been frequently 'hybridized' for lack of a better word - in captivity, and are sometimes sold under false purity, which can create ID problems down the line when that snake is bred to a pure animal as 'pure'.

http://www.boa-constrictors.com/com/constrictor/Colombia/colombia.html

On the topic of true Colombian Bcc... it is said they possess the looks of both Bci and Bcc, sort of a compromise between the two. It makes me wonder if there isn't some sort of natural intergrade going on, and Colombian Bcc are in fact, mostly impure?

[BoidKeeper]

According to the Boa Constrictor Manual they are seperated by a moutain range so I would think that there would be no natural crossing in the wild. Not like the boarder of Suriname and Guyana.
Cheers,
Trevor

[lostwithin]

Pic's are dark but I only count 19 saddles, which would point to it being a BCC. Word of advice though although I hate doing this, you should treat those snakes for mites right away. I just purchased a snake from “snakepete” last month and it was riddled with mites. Luckily I noticed them crawling on the snake as it came out of the box before it even made it into my home, so it went straight into the nix.

Good luck, Hope you didn’t put them anywhere near any other snakes you might own. Mites are a pain to get rid of.

Devon

[Linds]

Thanks for the info Trevor :)

Devon,
Saddle counts are completely inaccurate, as many people are breeding for fewer saddles in Bci. Both my Bci have less than 20 saddles snout to vent, and my male still makes it under the 22 mark if you count tail splotches as well.

<img src="http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/508/22bci2.jpg">
<img src="http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/508/22chasey11-med.jpg">

[lostwithin]

I agree it is inaccurate, . I believe one of my bci also has less saddles; it’s not always true you are right. but it’s about all you can go on with pictures

Devon

[BoidKeeper]

It's also inacurate at times because of crosses between BCI and BCC.
Cheers,
Trevor