Lizards straight from the C .

[jonostilla]

My names Jonathan and I love my lizards. Heres a picture of my chams and red eyed tree frog, how do they look.

[jonostilla]

woops how do i show pictures?

[lostwithin]

Hi, upload them to the gallery first, and then try again.

Devon

[JonD]

Follow this link it explains how to post pics....;)

Link (http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11224)

[HeatherRose]

Here you go:

http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/500/6565Lizards-med.jpg

Do you keep them all together?

[jonostilla]

Yes, Im keeping them together until the chams become big enough to eat the frog. I even have 3 green anoles in there (its a much bigger cage than the picture shows its quite tall.

[HeatherRose]

Personally that sounds like a really bad idea, even just keeping two chameleons together...

I believe red-eyed tree frogs are from South America, and chameleons are from Madagascar...

If they're both from different regions, how can both of their husbandry requirements be met? Are your chameleons stressed out constantly from being around other chameleons/herps???

[Removed_2815]

Madagascar is home to something like 2/3's of the world's chameleon species. Those particular chameleons in the pic, calyptratus, are native to Yemen and surrounding area, if memory serves. Nonetheless, HeatherRose is correct about them having very different native environments. That is a chameleon species that is native to a very arid land. It is physically impossible to adequately replicate both of their environments in the same enclosure. I, too, believe it to be a bad idea...
Best regards,
R

[HeatherRose]

Sorry for my mistake! I had no idea...:)

[RepTylE]

Couldn't you keep a couple chams in a large enclosure if there was lots of visual barriers. I know that they are prone to stress. I am not a not up on cham keeping but I was just wondering.
Nice pic though.

[karmeleon]

I tried keeping two female veileds together before. One killed the other so don't do it. It is only a matter of time

[jonostilla]

I asked the cham breeder and he said since they came from the same parents and they were(and are) growing up together they should be fine, plus the tree frog likes lots of humiditie and heat so do chameleons, its not like i have to replicate the plants from madagascar and south america because they definatly dont know the difference.

[Removed_2815]

Again, Veiled Chameleons are native to Yemen and Saudi Arabia. They are from an arid climate and, as such, require a lot of ventilation. One of the best qualities of Veileds is their tolerance for varying levels in temperature and humidity; however, this should not be exploited.
Bottom line: you don't have to listen to us, but there is so much wrong with your husbandry that you would be wise to have an open mind and learn from some of the people here, such as the user who housed two adult female Veileds together and one was killed. Every care-sheet out there stresses that adult chameleons are solitary animals and should never be housed together, not to mention the risk you're running with disease transmission and all of the other problems associated with communal housing.
You have animals in there from three radically different regions of the world, which should be reason enough to realize that their husbandry needs are different.
But it's your choice and ultimately it is the animals that suffer.
Best regards,
R

[Removed_2815]

Of course, this is just my opinion.
And I realize that the Veileds are not adults yet so please don't focus on that part of my rant...
I still think it's all a bad idea.
Cheers,
R

[JeffT]

good posts RM, hopefully most will follow the helpful advice.

[jonostilla]

I do apreciate your help, and i hope im keeping them happy they are always bright green unless i take them out. So i assume right now theyre ok. But i have a humidifier hooked up to the top of the cage and it circulates the air while keeping it very humid so i think it should be ok.

[jonostilla]

O and Jeff T wasup? Your from calgary what lizards do you have? and i see that quote is from real ultimate power.

[RepTylE]

me thinks the words of advice will go unheeded