Full Pin Stripe Harlequin /fire

[little_dragon_]

I was just looking o kingsnake there's a person selling a full pinstripe harlequin fire sub adult for 300 american is this the market value for one in the states? I sold one of my juvies for a lot less

[alan]

Everyone has their own opinion on how much to sell their animals and if they think they'll have a buyer willing to take a full pinstripe for 300 american, so be it. =)

I have a pair of partial pinstripe and won't let them go at any price, but I would like to get a full pinstrpe down the road...so please keep that in mind if you are selling again. :D

[Ptindy]

OKAY, what does pinstripe mean? The white ojn it's tail? Cause I keep hearing this and looking at the cresties and just being like, what is different?

Mike

[CDN-Cresties]

This is the definition from the Rhac: The complete guide to their selection and care.

Pinstripe- It's basically a 'fire' type crested gecko,white-fringed, and with two thin, high contrast yellow-white stripes running the length of the lateral crests, starting at the base of the head, and meeting at the base of the tail.

[Ptindy]

Thanks Steven. That clear things up. I need that book! haha

[CDN-Cresties]

No prob, the pics in the book are worth the price! :)

[StickyToes]

The American market seems to be on the upswing pricing-wise for particular morphs of cresteds. I saw some full pinstripes advertised in august that I would've definitely paid the $250 asking price to add to some of my projects for next year. These were from de Vosjoli, so you know the time and effort put into the developement of the color is worth the asking price! I think the amount of people looking for "investment" quality animals is much smaller in Canada, and unless you have a name for yourself for producing high quality offspring you aren't going to attract the people looking to spend more money for a particular morph. I've yet to see any full pinstripes of this caliber (haven't seen your animals) in Canada as of yet, but there are also very few people interested in doing what Repashy and de Vosjoli are doing with selective breeding projects.

[adamofsound]

does the pinstripe have to be white??

I have cresteds that I considered pinstripe, but they are quite yellow, with the "pintripe" being brown. Ill try to get a good picture, but I am having trouble getting high enough qulaity close range shots to demonstrate this accurately.

[little_dragon_]

I believe the stripes could be any colour? I don't have the rhac bible yet though, lol AC has a 90% one on his site check it out. I want that red harlequin!

Out of the 3 fires I hatched, one was a full pinstripe, the other two were partial. The father is a partial the 3 fires must have been dominant from him, as the next three hatchlings were high yellow tigers like the mother. This Might be a gene pattern? The next two should be hatching within a couple of days.

Can crested geckos be breed like leo's? they are poly morphic right so is it possible a pure pinstripe fire pairwould always produce pinstripes oe would the hatchlings always be different?

[StickyToes]

I think the pinstriping trait has been linked to the "painted" or "white" thigh trait, so it is usually white to be considered pinstripe. I believe this was coined by de Vosjoli, Fast and Repashy...See here: http://www.acreptiles.com/geckos_crested_repashy.htm
Polymorphism is the term used to describe certain character variations in a population, and yes on the whole cresteds are considered a polymorphic population. The pinstripes are line bred just like hypo and tangerine leopard geckos, so you will see variation of the degrees of pinstriping as there are going to be multiple factors that affect the expression of the character. The pairing of similar traits should produce a majority of offspring similar to the parents in varying degrees unless there is a mutation somewhere in the process.
I think that when I get to some of the higher level genetics classes I'll be taking this will be something I will probably do a paper or 2 on! I'm keeping very careful notes on offspring colors and traits! :D
James