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burmese maniac
10-04-04, 06:08 PM
should be getting a nile monitor on friday. I would apreciate any info on these guys and pics also. I've had water monitors before. thanxs in advance!!!!!!!!:grab:

Big_V
10-04-04, 06:41 PM
Ummmmmmm Im hoping you've done some real good reading on these guys and didnt just buy it having no idea what your getting into because this could be one crazy experiment for ya then.

chong_python
10-04-04, 06:58 PM
From what i have read they can be alright when they are smaller but when they get big ( 6 feetor soo ) they get nasty. And can be really dangerous. they are mostly recommended for zoo's. Make sure you know what ur getting into

bistrobob85
10-04-04, 07:09 PM
Hmmm, i dont think a nile monitor is very suitable when you're raising young children around either...

SHvar
10-05-04, 09:21 AM
Not the reverse. Usually, unless the animal is being stressed badly. Niles are nervous, flighty, on average can be a bit agressive, dislike human presence on average but some are rare exceptions. They can grow anywhere from 4-6 or more feet, mainly depending on husbandry. They are very highly aquatic monitors, in fact one of the most aquatic, therefore needing or wanting big swimming ponds, as well they love to dig in deep substrate, they enjoy climbing when younger but when the get a certain size they avoid climbing as they are no longer built for it very well. A nile tail slaps hard when monitors get large they can be dangerous, this is an animal capable of 7 plus feet.

dean_h00
10-05-04, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by chong_python
From what i have read they can be alright when they are smaller but when they get big ( 6 feetor soo ) they get nasty.
UMMM
more like they are defensive and flighty when young, defensive/ becoming more aggressive as they get older, then finally you have a dangerous bite at anything that moves not afraid of very much big freaking lizard
haha
nono I do know people who have succesfully "tamed" their niles well not so much tamed as gotten them to be calm and not nervous around people
Dont get me wrong they are AMAZING and definetely beautiful animals and if in the right hands will definetly be quite an exciting experience for the keeper

V.hb
10-05-04, 12:20 PM
I found biting to be a niles last resort, actually. I've only been bitten by juvis, adults seem to prefer to crap on you, flail, or tail whip.

dean_h00
10-05-04, 02:54 PM
still hurts
haha
front end back end same thing
STAY AWAY

burmese maniac
10-05-04, 06:20 PM
bistrobob I have a room just for my reptiles whitch is locked and no access to antone else but me not even my wife has the keys. there are 3 locks too the door!!!!!!!

Bartman
10-05-04, 07:34 PM
I personally think anyone can handle pretty much anything, but it all depends on if they will commit to it for 20 some odd years and not throw it away, because i can tell you selling a 6 foot nile is not easy and no body will even take it for free

From what I understand, they eat a crap load of food and need a pretty large enclosure.

If you can provide a large enclosure, lots of money for food, and your commitment, then go for it!

burmese maniac
10-05-04, 08:23 PM
thanxs bartman!!!!!!!!!

dean_h00
10-05-04, 08:40 PM
yes thank you bartman
you have inspired us all:)
lol
im kiddin
Very good point tho;)

leo_gexx
10-05-04, 11:59 PM
The first monitor I had was a nile monitor that became quite docile with a lot of attention, It used to chill with me while watching tv. At the same token one of the worst monitors I have ever seen for aggression was a nile as well , it was a friends that when you opened its cage it would run and lunge at you. My only advice is that if you do get one make sure you have lots of time to spend with it . So many people get put off by a monitors agressive behaviour that the only time they will give it attention is when they feed it . Than the monitor learns that humans mean food which can make for a nasty situation.

Bartman
10-06-04, 06:38 AM
Id also suggest a cb. Im not 100 percent sure if it makes a difference, but ive heard cb's are easier to calm down.

SHvar
10-06-04, 10:08 AM
You dont know what a WC monitor has been through, besides they miss the wild, they have seen it first hand. Theres only been a handful of people who have bred niles in many years, after all to sucessfully breed a large monitor it must proper conditions, and a very large cage is one of those many conditions. The only people who I know that sold CBB niles were "Nessies Mom", Rob Faust, and a few others here in the US in many years. WC niles come in at the rate of 100,000 a year for $1.00 each to wholesale distribuiters, and the majority (around 84,000 to the skin trade alone). CBB monitors are very expensive, in order to get a CBB nile you will spend between $200-$400 each, simply so that the breeder can make back a few dollars from buying parent lizards, setting them up in cages that cost a few hundred to build or more, feeding them, etc.
WC have been starved, beaten, dehydrated, snared, bitten, stressed big time, parasites, disease, etc etc. all before you ever see it in the reptile show,or pet store, not including improper care and abuse the whole way from the start, and they miss the wild because they were there.

JimmyDavid
10-06-04, 10:37 AM
Well, if you have had water monitors before you should be ready for any other kind. There's no point saying a Nile will be more of a challenge than a Salvator. Perhaps, a salvator could tame down in a shorter period of time, but again it could not. Telling you to be ready for a beast that grows a lot, eats a lot and needs lots of cage space
is really a silly advice when we know you've had a bigger species before.
Just learn along the way, bro. Good luck.

leo_gexx
10-06-04, 10:58 AM
I had to deal with a 5 foot nasty water monitor before that caused its previous owner a couple trips to the hospital to get stitches. It took all my strength just to handle this monitor, and it was then I realized that in order to have a lizard like this you must be 100% dedicated to having this reptile for the next 20 years or more, thats a pretty big decision as most of us dont keep vehicles or jobs longer than 5 years.

burmese maniac
10-06-04, 06:30 PM
I usually give between an hour or so to my reptiles every night when the kids go to bed.I handle , give them water feed and any other little detail to make sure they are in top shape!!!!!!!

Jeff_Favelle
10-06-04, 07:15 PM
Niles aren't nocturnal. Why would you be feeding them at night?

burmese maniac
10-06-04, 07:23 PM
I feeed most my reptile a night. don't have chose don't get home before 6:30 at night from work. wish I had better schedule to offer my reptiles, got a family to support, whitch is my number 1 priority.

dean_h00
10-06-04, 07:51 PM
its ok tpo feed them at night not a big deal
as a matter of fact it might even be better to feed younger animals at night because it is the time of the day that is most quiet and peaceful making it easier to get better responses out of your animals and specially if you are trying to "tame" and animals like a nile night time feedings are much better.
when i say nightim im not talking 11am -like 4am lol im talking evenings