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Yesterday, I had the one fertile egg from my females double clutch hatch. Cute looking bugger, and while I was moving him into his own little cage, I noticed a tiny piece of his cord was still on him. Didn't really think twice about it since it looked like the others I have seen, and was quite small. I placed him in a *very* wet cage, and let him settle in.
I go to check on his this morning and I automatically see this "chunk" of something in the cage. It looks nothing like his little cord did, and is like 50 times bigger. Its LITERALLY two inches long, and about and inch WIDE. It is not bloody but wet, it really looks like a peice of fat cut from a peice of meat.
It's HUGE in comparision to the size of the snake. Like, he could sit on top of this clump of whatever if I stretched it out...I know...gross.....
What in the hell is this?!?!?! Intestines? It doesn't look like tubes or how intestines would look in my mind, just like a hunk of fat. It's BIZARRE! He seems o.k. but has a buldge coming out of his vent slightly. He is alert and in his hiding spot.
Marisa
P.S. Damn roomates still have my camera on vacation.
Kind of sounds like the intestines~
keep a close eye on that little one~
if its the intestines then the snake would not make it...and would pass on in a couple of days (if that)
I have had things like this happen to me too~
so I do feel for you~
Other than intestine....I can't really think of anything else....
MouseKilla
10-02-04, 12:01 PM
So is this thing still attached to the snake?
No it is not attached. It is on the opposite side of the cage where he is now hiding.
I can't believe how much it looks like a big peice of fat from a steak....it's like a blob...white in color...not bloody but wet...same consistancy as fat....no obvious shapes of organs or anything and like I said, its huge! Another thing I noticed...last night when I removed him from the hatchling box, my boyfriend and I noted how much fatter he was than the others...his belly was fat although not swollen, just pudgy. Today, he is very slim and looks like the others did.
It must be internal organs of some sort, like Simon said....intestines. I will watch this guy close but if he looks weak or at all not normal, I will be putting him down. It would be a real shame too because he has an amazing striped neck pattern tht none of the other hatchlings in the past two years have had. :(
Any other ideas are welcome. I am keeping him wet, and warm.
Marisa
I wonder if he yanked his entire yolk sac out and what you are seeing is that.
vanderkm
10-04-04, 09:49 AM
I would agree with Katt - sounds like yolk that he had absorbed before hatching may have been pulled out with the bit of remaining cord.
I expect that if it was a clean break and his belly heals well, he might be ok. He just won't have an abundance of energy to get him started. Some of our very tiny corns from tiny eggs seemed to get very little yolk and were willing to feed even before their first shed - perhaps to make up for the lack of yolk.
good luck with him - interesting comment on the neck stripe - I had several with that from a couple different clutches this year - had not seen it before,
mary v.
A point to note about snake who don't absorb all their yolk. Had a baby hog who didn't and she was the best feeder eating off tongs the first time and every other time I fed her. The rest had to be left alone with the pinks.
Well he is still looking o.k. today.
I like all your theories. I am not sure what to think at this point but I am going to give him a try with a pink tonight.
Marisa
O.k. so I gave him a good look over just now. (Did NOT handle him, just moved him a tiny bit for inspection)
He is far more wrinkled than yesterday. I am assuming this means dehydration is setting in? But at the same time he is also going blue so it could be the shed coming on? But only barely going into shed, his eyes are still visible.
Tonight I am going to attempt feeding him a pinky head. He is very small in comparision to the others.
How can I combat the dehydration without stressing him too much? His cage is ultra damp, but I was contemplating a soak. He also still has a buldge (tiny) coming out of the vent, would the whole sugar paste be help for this? Or better leave it and see what happens?
Marisa
Pics of him I just took when we gave him a little bath....
<img src="http://8snakes.myftp.org/marisa/Snakes/babycorn/kink.jpg">
<img src="http://8snakes.myftp.org/marisa/Snakes/babycorn/kink2.jpg">
The "kinked" area doesn't really look like a kink to me in real life, it more looks like it got smashed in a car door if you know what I mean, oddly swollen, a little discolored.....and the "kinking" is worse today than it was at first, because at first there really was no "kink" or obvious injury.
He is also pretty aggresive. I hope it's not because he is in pain, but I cannot really tell as most of our corn hatchlings have been aggresive, although not until the first shed. This guy was rattling his tail and hissing right out of the egg.
Marisa
vanderkm
10-05-04, 09:10 AM
Unfortunate that he is having problems as he is a neat one - nice even saddles and that little neck stripe is appealing. The kinked area looks like it could be a problem - very frustrating dealing with these guys because you don't know what they are going through and if discomfort may be contributing to attitude.
best of luck in making dealing with him regardless of the outcome - thanks for keeping us posted,
mary v.
He ate a pinky head last night.
He was resting under the paper towel and I was able to notice something...its not at the vent where the problem is. He actually has a "lump" of stuff coming out his side. I will try and get a pic tonight.
I don't think he will be able to pass waste??? But that's one of the reasons I fed him. If he can eat and go to the bathroom, then I guess his chances are probably pretty good, but the deformaty at the end of his body looks really bad.
Photos to come.
Marisa
Queensnake29
10-13-04, 06:34 AM
I wouldn't keep playing with it and take your baby to a vet to see what the problem is before you try to play doctor.
BoidKeeper
10-13-04, 06:44 AM
No worries Queensnake29, she is more than able to take care of the snake.
Trevor
Queensnake29
10-13-04, 06:54 AM
Good to know Trevor. ::phew:: I'll have to look you up if I get any problems like this in the future with my breeding projects.
and what happened Marisa - I am kind of curious?
nevermind found the other post
::looking lost and feeling stupid:: where is the other post?
Wow! This thread is REALLY old! From last summer when my clutch hatched!
Unfortuantly in the end I had to put this little snake down. He could eat and what not but he was obviously not normal and had deformaties in his scales, vent and other places. That's basically what the other post said.
Marisa
doh! i didn't even notice how old this thread was. !!
...sorry bout the boy. that's really sad.
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