What price should i be expecting for a neo-CB ETB?

[bistrobob85]

I was just wondering what price i should be expecting to pay for a CB baby ETB... i'm going to get mine sexed on thuesday and then, if i have a male, i'll get a female at the Expo, if possible... I've been told mine was CB, but i don't believe the guy ( he sold it 450$... can it be a CB at such a low price? ). That's why i'm not so sure of what to pay for a REAL CB ETB...

phil.

[leoncurrie]

The average price for a cb baby ETB is between $600.00 and $700.00. I if the guy sold you a ETB for $450.00 and it is doing well, chances are it is an import or captive born.

[ilia]

Don't get the ETB that you have now sexed. If it's a neo there is a chance it will get a kink.

Ilia

[bistrobob85]

well it's a 7 months old, it's a neo-juvenile... what do you mean, '' there is a chance it will get a kink'' ???

phil.

[ilia]

If you go to sex an ETB before they are a year to 14 months old there could be an injury to the animal.

Ilia

[BoidKeeper]

If you go to sex an ETB before they are a year to 14 months old there could be an injury to the animal.
You're thinking GTP not ETB. Emeralds can be sexed right away.
Trevor

[Richard Welter]

Trevor is right, emeralds can be sexed right away. It just depends on who does it and how it is done. I have helped prob emeralds that were 2-3months old and have never had or seen any tail kinking. As for the price the $500.00-$800.00 range has been put to the test in Canada. Imports are going for $195.00-$1800.00 in some stores. Also keep in mind baby season just past in Surname and fresh red little babies that look CB can always be passed off as CB. If you want a CB emerald and you want to make sure it is then here is a list of questions you can ask to find out the truth.

1. Do you own the parents
2. Do you have pics of the parents
3. Do you have the hatch date and full records on the animal
4. Do you have updated photos of the animal for sale
5. If possible can I see the animal in person before buying
6. Talk to other breeders and find out if this person works with emeralds or is just reselling them
7. Is the animal feeding and what is it feeding on

If you ask these questions you will never have a problem in getting a rock solid emerald. I ask these questions everytime I pick up an emerald and out of the 22 I have these questions tell the difference between a good or bad animal. In the picture you will see an CH little emerld that was in a store for $1800.00 for the first couple months of his life. I paid $700.00 after about 6 months and this animal is still rock solid. But it's a gable buy animals from unknown sources. Thanks Richard Welter

[ilia]

Well you live and learn. I keep GTP's so I thought that it was the same. I'm guessing that an ETB's vertebrae are not as fragile as a GTP's.

Thanks,
Ilia

[bistrobob85]

Ok, well i'll be looking to buy in the Toronto Reptile Expo next week end ( if mine is a male )... I guess i won't have any good proofs that the animals i'm looking for are CBs... However, it's a sure thing i'll have a good look at the snake before i purchase it, make sure it eats and have feeding reccords, i'll ask if the guy owns the parents too... Just hope i'll get a healthy animal and give my money to someone who really cares about the snake, not a reseller... By the way, who's going to be there ( at the september 12 reptile expo ) selling ETBs???.

phil.

[leoncurrie]

Originally posted by Richard Welter
Imports are going for $195.00-$1800.00 in some stores.

Is that the price for imported emeralds now? :confused:

[Shad0w]

I might have CBB in a year :)
My male is ready but I think my female needs another season before she is ready.

Keep in touch with me and I can promise CBB's...

[Richard Welter]

That's just a price range that I have sold emeralds for and bought emeralds at. Keep in mind most store can get them at a very cheap price, but it is still a gamble in buying them.

[BoidKeeper]

but it is still a gamble in buying them.
Yup but IMO it's not one worth taking. Not with so many CBB available ones know. If you buy a WC and it needs to be cleaned up and you actually care enough to clean it up right you'll spend more in the end than if you had just bought a CBB in the first place. I think it is important to support breeders and not the WC pet trade. The less WC animals we buy the less the stores will bring in the less the importers will bring in and the less the snake hunters will remove from the wild. If the snake hunters don't have anyone to sell their snakes too why would they bother catching them in the first place?
Buying CBB gets you a better animal and supports dedicated breeders. I'll say it again, you get what you pay for with ETBs and GTPs.
I've read Stan Chiras's article on ETBs and Greg Maxwells book on GTP called the Complete Chondro and both were great reads. I would encourage anyone considering either of these snakes to read both.
Cheers,
Trevor