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Fornever
10-13-02, 01:32 PM
Sorry this is really long but I had to do it. I bought my first boa a month ago. I've been addicted to forums ever since, but every where I went there was one question that was unanswered. So after one wasted day of work, I have an answer. The question you ask, what is legal and Illegal to import/export between the Canada and the U.S.? The answer is believe it or not, NOTHING as long as you have the right paper work filled out. Now remember what I'm about to show you is only Fedral, Provincial/State Law will have to be checked by you(ex. Alberta has withdrawn from the administration of CITES). I checked both Canada and U.S. because both can vary.

So if you want to check other animals here are links to the websites were I found this info.
This is the main site, http://www.cites.org/
This is the Canadian Site, http://www.cites.ec.gc.ca/
This is the U.S. Site, http://international.fws.gov/

Appendix I INFO
Species are rare or endangered because of international trade.
International trade is generally prohibited. However, trade may be possible for captive-bred or artificially reproduced specimens and in such cases as scientific research and Pre-Convention specimens.

Permit:
Specimens to be imported into Canada must be accompanied by:
- A Canadian CITES import permit
- A CITES export permit issued by the exporting country

Permit:
Specimens to be exported from Canada must be accompanied by:
- A Canadian CITES export permit that will be issued once the relevant CITES import permit issued by the Management Authority of the importing country is received.

Snakes - Madagascar Ground Boas, Argentine Boa Constrictor,
Round Island Boa(Burrowing Boa/Bolyeria multocarinata, Keel Scaled Boa/Casarea dussumieri), Puerto Rican Boa, Mona Boa, Jamaican Boa, Indian Python, Madagascar Tree Boa, Orsini's Viper.

Appendix II INFO
Are not currently rare or endangered but could become so if trade is not regulated. International trade may be possible, controlled by permits.

Permit:
Specimens to be imported into Canada must be accompanied by:
- A CITES export permit issued by the exporting country

Permit:
Specimens to be exported from Canada must be accompanied by:
- A Canadian CITES export permit

Snakes - Boas(All except those in App.I), Round Island Boas(All except those in App.I), Mussurana Snake, South American False Water Cobra, Indian Egg-Eating Snake/Westermans Snake,
Yellow Anaconda, Broad-Headed Snake, Mexican Dwarf Boas(All except those in App.I), Asian/Indian Cobra, King Cobra, Oriental Rat Snake/Whipsnake/dhaman/Asian Rat Snake, Pythons(All except those in App.I), Rainbow Boa, Wagners Viper,Small Ground Boas/Wood Boas/Wood Snakes(All except those in App.I).

Appendix III INFO:
Are not necessarily endangered but are managed within the listing nation. International trade is possible, controlled by permits.

Permit:
Specimens to be imported into Canada must be accompanied by:
- A CITES export permit issued by the exporting country if the specimen is from a listingnation.
Or
- A CITES export permit, a CITES certificate of origin or a CITES re-export certificate if the specimen is from another nation.

Permit:
Specimens to be exported from Canada must be accompanied by:
- A CITES export permit.

Snakes - Olivaceous Keel-Back Water Snake, Dog-Faced Water Snake, Checkered Keel-Back Water Snake/Chequered Keel-Back Water Snake, Atlanta Coral Snake, Black Banded Coral Snake, Tropical Mocassin/Cantill, Jumping Pit Viper/Tamagasse, Schlegels Pit Viper/Eyelash Palm Pit Viper, Lance-Head Snake/Terciopelo, Tropical Rattle Snake/South American Rattlesnake/Cascabel,
Russells Viper, Horned Hog Nosed Pit Viper/Rainforest hog nosed pit viper, Slender Hog Nosed Pit Viper.

SilverTongue
10-13-02, 01:36 PM
Good information to share thanks! :)

Also cant you drive over the border with no more than 8 reptiles if you tell them they are pets?

Corey Woods
10-13-02, 03:49 PM
Good information..........You did your research. However, there are is 1 thing I'd like to correct. If you are importing CITES appendix 2 animals from another country you only need the export permit from the foreign country.........you do not need a Canadian Import permit to accompany the export permit.

Corey

Fornever
10-13-02, 03:58 PM
Good eye Corey Woods, I must have forgot to erase it after pasting it.

Thanks!

lance
10-13-02, 04:16 PM
thanks for the info