blood motley ghost corn?

[dave68]

Anybody have any idea "pics" of what a blood motley ghost corn would look like!?

Dave

[Simon]

Nope. At least I don't and I haven't seen it

I have seen anery striped bloodred, amel striped bloodred, snow striped bloodred...but haven't seen a ghost striped bloodred yet.

You can try and find a person in the States called Richard Hume and he might have some for you. Cause he is the only person that I know of that has these amel striped bloodred, snow striped bloored and amel striped bloodred avaliable right now in North America.

Not too easy to get any of these projects. Plus he is not going to sell it as these are not proven out to be really anery striped bloodred, amel striped bloodred and snow striped bloodred. Once its proven out, he might start selling it.

[dave68]

I was more just curious if anyone had any pics of a bloodred motley ghost , thats all. Also how about a ghost emori's anybody gone down that road before?

Dave

[vanderkm]

Like Simon says - not many people working with bloodred and striped/motley at this time and they have just gotten the basic single color mutations into that - so will be a while before they have double color mutations like ghost in combination with it.

Again, few people working with GPR lines in corn colors - don't know of anyone with ghost emoryi but it gets complicated with these guys because there are hypo genes in emoryi that may differ from the hypos in corns - can get really messy when you try and put them together - just like the amelanistic genes are not compatable. Don't know of anyone working with these now and likely the most comprehensive emroyi breeder in USA, now that Don Soderberg sold out is KJUN Snakehaven - might check out their website for more info on emoryi.

mary v.

[BoidKeeper]

Why combine a pattern into a blood red anyway? Won't it be washed out once the red pigment starts to fill in?
Cheers,
Trevor

[vanderkm]

The bloodred seens to be more of a pattern abnormality than just infusion of red - the patternless belly is much like the pattern abnormalities in motley and striped - just that the abnormal saddle pattern develops over time.

I think the intent of combining bloodred with striped or motely is to achieve a patternless corn - no saddles and a more intense background color than in a striped or vanishing striped - because of the effect of bloodred at 'spreading pigment' out - regardless of whether it is red (in normals) or grey (pewter) or caramel.

There are few pics out so far of the hatchling and youngster phases where these genes are suspected of being combined - they look very clean - the anery striped bloodred is almost like a white-sided - quite a pretty effect even as a hatchling.

I think part of the reason is also curiosity - what would happen if?? So many genes and so little time!!

mary v.

[Simon]

Originally posted by vanderkm
The bloodred seens to be more of a pattern abnormality than just infusion of red - the patternless belly is much like the pattern abnormalities in motley and striped - just that the abnormal saddle pattern develops over time.

I think the intent of combining bloodred with striped or motely is to achieve a patternless corn - no saddles and a more intense background color than in a striped or vanishing striped - because of the effect of bloodred at 'spreading pigment' out - regardless of whether it is red (in normals) or grey (pewter) or caramel.

There are few pics out so far of the hatchling and youngster phases where these genes are suspected of being combined - they look very clean - the anery striped bloodred is almost like a white-sided - quite a pretty effect even as a hatchling.

I think part of the reason is also curiosity - what would happen if?? So many genes and so little time!!

mary v.

Yup definitely right.
I also highly agree on the last part where she said "What would happen if?" Cause without this question, then a lot of morphs wouldn't be poping out like there is no tomorrow....

Another thing that I would add to answering Trev's question on why combine a pattern mutaion to a bloodred:
1) What Mary said
2) For economic reasons. You're basically keeping 1 snake instead of 3 that are homozygous for 3 recessive trait already. I keep back snow motleys because it carries the amel, anery, and motley gene all in the same snake. Now this goes the same if we were using an anery striped bloodred.
Want to produce striped? Sure use teh anery striped bloodred and breed it to a normal striped and you'll get all normal striped. Want bloodred? Sure breed it to a bloodred and you'll get all bloodreds het anery and striped and the list goes on.
So it is a a lot easier to keep one animal than to keep 3, less mouths to feed. Thus this is also another reason why triple homozygous animal are more expensive than others. (Plus it is harder to get these morphs)

[dave68]

Thanks for the replies! Corn genetics are soooo interesting, if I didn't love boids so much that is probably all I would keep.

Dave

[Simon]

Originally posted by dave68
Thanks for the replies! Corn genetics are soooo interesting, if I didn't love boids so much that is probably all I would keep.

Dave

LOL!!
That's me!!
I love them so much I'd say 90% of my collection are corns....
I have some rats and a couple of boas...but other than that it's all corns....I am way too crazy with corn genetics.....

[dave68]

Keep it up Simon You ROCK!!!

Dave