I have Returned w/ more pics :)

[HerpHelmz]

Hello all,

Long time no see, I have a few pictures for anybody that cares to see.

Pic of my 20 inch northern ringneck "Giant" eating a salamander scented fuzzy mouse, she quit eating these are a few feedings, she now won't go after anything unless it moves.

http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/509/5485rneckeat1.jpg

Later on that night she ate another one

http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/509/5485rneckeat2.jpg

My buddy "regalringneck" wanted me to share these pics of a new trick he uses to feed some of his snakes. He got a piece of a lizard tail, and tied it to a pinky mouse with a piece of cotton thread. The night snake grabbed the tail part and ate it. It then safely digests the cotton.

http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/509/5485nightsnakeeating1.jpg

http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/509/5485nightsnakeeating2.jpg

http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/509/5485nightsnakeeating3.jpg

Here are pictures of regal ringneck snake hatchlings fighting over a Tantilla hatchling.

http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/509/5485regals1.jpg

http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/509/5485regals2.jpg

I never knew how big regal ringneck snake hatchlings were until I was able to obtain one for myself. I acquired a regal hatchling of Arizona locale, it was a whopping 7 inches long! Most ringneck hatchlings are 2 to 5 inches in length, but regals weren't exactly studied in depth and bred in captivity often.
Here is a BAD pic of my regal compared to a neonate northern, both snakes were less than 2 weeks old in this pic. lol if you squint really hard you see that the regal is alot bigger than the northern, the regal is on the left of the container.

http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/509/5485regalnortherncomparison.jpg

Picture of the regal's mom, 22 incher :) eating a kingsnake.


http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/509/5485regaleating1.jpg
Michael
Michael_Fedzen @ hotmail.com

Michael's Place (http://www.freewebs.com/mikesnake)

[bistrobob85]

aren't the babies eating small snakes too??? What did you feed them?

[bistrobob85]

Do you dispose of many kingsnakes to feed them to your snakes?!?! Just wondering...

[LdyDrgn]

Did one baby ringneck swallow the other? I'm really sorry, but I find feeding that way rather irresponsible. I have no problem with feeding reptiles to those snakes that are disposed to eating them, but making the babies fight over food....? Is he not interested in raising them all up or does he just want the one that "wins"?

[GHOSTSNAKE]

eat a kingsnake ?!?!
very PITY .. ......

[ilia]

You people need to calm down. Why is it that we can feed mice to our snakes but when we feed another reptile to the snake it becomes wrong. If that's what the snakes prey on in the wild then why not feed them the same way in captivity?

Ilia

[hooter]

Originally posted by ilia
You people need to calm down. Why is it that we can feed mice to our snakes but when we feed another reptile to the snake it becomes wrong. If that's what the snakes prey on in the wild then why not feed them the same way in captivity?

Ilia

Agreed

[lostwithin]

I have too agree, feeding another reptile is no different then feeding a rodent, rabbit or bird. If that is what they eat so be it, but there are health problems you should be careful of when feeding reptiles too other reptiles. They can transmit parasites or illnesses too one and other.

Devon

[crimsonking]

The king was f/t I believe.
:Mark

[LdyDrgn]

Ilia.... "you people"? Did I not say in my post: I have no problem with feeding reptiles to those snakes that are disposed to eating them....

I was questioning making the babies fight over food, not what they were eating.

Who is it that needs to calm down?

[Bartman]

I was going to say the same thing. Its not really a big deal at all if someone wants to feed a snake to another snake (could have an overstock whatever) but in that pic you can see two snakes eating one snake and about to meet face to face. One is going to eat the other, but why wouldnt you feed them seperatly or just not breed them at all if your going to basically let htem fend for themselves.

[sincity]

$5 says the one on the right won.

[CamHanna]

What kind of snake is that in the pic above the feeding babies? My guess goes Viperine Snake (Natrix ssp.).

Cam

[CamHanna]

Ooh! Ooh! Is it a False Smooth Snake (Macroprotodon cucullatus)?

[HerpHelmz]

Ok, my buddy has to buy other snakes to feed to his snakes. He gets em' cheap too, so there is no problem with feeding "fancy kingsnakes" to a regal. With the pics of the little regals, they are fighting over a Tantilla as I am pretty sure I mentioned in the first post. They didn't eat each other or anything, the one on the right stole it from the other. The one on the left is now mine, it takes down common garter babies like there is no tomorrow, it just takes too long to digest it.
I haven't been able to get any decent pics of my regal eating, but as soon as I do, I'll be sure to post them :)

Here is a pic of the same female regal eating a water snake.



http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/500/5485regaleatwatersnake.jpg

She was quite full after that meal, up to her neck in snake...
http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/500/5485regaleatwatersnake2.jpg


Michael
Michael_Fedzen @ hotmail.com
Michael's Place (http://www.freewebs.com/mikesnake)

Also, I don't know how many of you have seen my website, but I am hoping to add a ringneck snake identification page to the site. I am asking all of you out there for pictures of diferent ringneck snake sub-species, YOUR pics! You WILL get credit for the pics you submit, your name will be right next to or below the pic, as well as a link to your website if you have one. Email me pics if you got em'. Peace

[hooter]

Where do you get striped cal kings for dirt cheap? I want some haha :)

This thread is pretty interesting and alot of people arnt educated in the whole snake eating another snake subject lol. Including myself heh

[HerpHelmz]

Well I'm glad to be of service, if I was. I don't know where he gets the cheap kings, but the majority of the ones he buys, are messed up in some way, kinks, non-eaters, and other deformities, and he just throws em' in the freezer and uses them later.

I can talk about ringnecks for hours on end, so if anyone wants to know anything about them, I'll gladly speak on their behalf.
Michael
Michael_Fedzen @ hotmail.com
Michael's Place (http://www.freewebs.com/mikesnake)

http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/500/5485eating1.jpg

[Crazycorn]

I want a regal myself, could you get it to eat mice? Maybe snake scenting a mouse?

[LdyDrgn]

I'm happy to hear that neither baby was swallowed. Good luck with yours!

[CamHanna]

Mike, do you have high-speed Internet? I've got a few (9 pics, 9.4 MBs) D. p. punctatus pics you could use if you like... but I didn't want to send them to you if it'd take forever for you to get them.

I'll ask again, what's that snake in the pics above the ones of the ringnecks bickering over the tantilla?

Cam

[crimsonking]

Michael, what is your current record (time) for keeping a ringneck? WC? CB?
Do you have adult cb? What ssp. have you bred?
Ever have any from egg to egg?
The southerns I have worked with are fairly good, but seem to almost always want worms, frogs,or lizard eggs.
:Mark

[Vanan]

CamHanna, looks like a Night snake to me.

[CamHanna]

It does look like a night snake... LOL, I always forget about those south-western snakes.

Thanks

[HerpHelmz]

Crazycorn, recently someone on "the other forum" said that they had success in getting a regal to eat a pinky by soaking it in warm water with a snake tail for a few minutes. Regalringneck has yet to have success in that area though.

CamHanna, lol I mentioned a few times that was a night snake. Also, send those pics to me if they are good.

Mark, I've had a few ringnecks for up to a few years, I'm unsure as to how long my record is though. I've bred northerns, southerns and prairies. From egg to egg, I'm guessing you mean have I ever had ringnecks, raised them and bred them? No, I have a few CB adults that are floating around somewhere, but I don't know if they were bred or anything yet, if so, it wasn't in my care. All the southerns I have worked with, would take anoles, geckos, worms, or fish. Mark I know you have some D. p. punctatus pics! Send em' my way if you don't mind me using one or two on the site.
Michael
Michael_Fedzen @ hotmail.com
Michael's Place (http://www.freewebs.com/mikesnake)

[CamHanna]

I've e-mailed you the punctatus pics...
Yea, looking back you did call it a night snake, I read your post before too, I guess I over looked it. Sorry.

[CamHanna]

Mike, the pics didn't go through on your hotmail account (too big?), do you have another account.

[HerpHelmz]

Try sending them to me again, my email space was practicly used up, that's probably why it didn't work.
Michael
Michael_Fedzen @ hotmail.com
Michael's Place (http://www.freewebs.com/mikesnake)