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Hey just curious about the new buttons at the top of the screen they don't look like they belong? Are they legit links, or are they some kinda spyware? Call me paranoid but comp crashes are too expensive and stressfull so I am extra cautious. Thanks
Dave
HeatherRose
08-19-04, 11:38 AM
I have those too....also, ssnakess chat seems to have been hijacked by reptichat....
dank7oo
08-19-04, 11:42 AM
Or they swung a deal with the other sites to promote eachother :)
Jason
Thats exactly what I thought too, anybody, mods, somebody know whats up with this!
Dave
exotic_66
08-19-04, 11:46 AM
i liked the old chat room better ...:(
~nessy~
I know that there was talks of this before but it never amounted to anything.. Looks like it has now though.. I was not aware that there was going to be any changes.. As far as the chat goes, no idea what's up with that, again, no one said anything..
Not sure i like the site looking like a european hockey jersey.. (too many adverts)
-Matt
proud2bcanadian
08-19-04, 12:00 PM
Originally posted by Matt_K
Not sure i like the site looking like a european hockey jersey.. (too many adverts)
-Matt
lol! I agree :p
I liked it the other way.
Another thing is that, previously, while I was in the classifieds and such, it always said test!?!?
Anyone know what's going on??
Originally posted by proud2bcanadian
Another thing is that, previously, while I was in the classifieds and such, it always said test!?!?
Anyone know what's going on??
Like Matt, I'm in the dark about all this as well. It was doing the 'test' thing all last night as well. I suppose it is just a side-effect of the site being reconfigured with the apparent merger. I also agree with the comment on the appearance of the buttons :/
I saw the buttons as well, but I just thought the spyware on my computer was acting up... now I know it's not just me. I'm sorry but they look rediculous and out-of-place here...
BoidKeeper
08-19-04, 12:45 PM
Like Matt and Linds I'm in the dark too, do you guys sense a theme here?
Cheers,
Trevor
And why was the chat link on the old graphic changed as well? I can understand the chat button pointing to reptichat, but the old link points to reptichat as well...
DragnDrop
08-19-04, 01:13 PM
At least I now know I'm not the only one seeing things.
"Mushroom reporting for duty, Sir!" :)
Cruciform
08-19-04, 01:54 PM
The whole button menu across the top is sourced from ReptiBid.
Weird.
IT A CONSPERACY AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH :P
ive been wondering about it to. I just dont like the look and the chat room is just too.......... colourfull.
Matt:p
Vengeance
08-19-04, 02:04 PM
Reptibid??? I've been watching that auction site for a while, personally, it isn't established enough for me to risk using it. They don't have enough safe guards in place to protect the buyer and seller. It could be a good idea, but I see allot of people trying to pass of Het for this and Het for that all the time, and really it's too risky. I might by a heating product, but an animal, not worth the risk in my opinion.
Is there not anyone that can be contacted to see if this is legit or are we being jacked or what? KINDA CREEPY !!!!
Dave
Cruciform
08-19-04, 02:14 PM
It must be legitimate. If it was being hijacked, it would be pretty dumb of them to point to links on an established sites.
Hijackers use temp setups that can be relocated to new servers in minutes.
If this was a hijack it would put Reptibid on the line for a lawsuit.
We'll just have to wait for the admins to get home from work. Might simply be that enough people aren't donating to the site, and costs have to be covered somehow.
dank7oo
08-19-04, 02:31 PM
I personally hate it :( I throws off my automatic spot-slicking senses - LOL
Jason
The buttons are kinda weird, hanging around, watching everything you do. But I like the chat!
People actually chatting in it! C'mon join in guys!
dank7oo
08-19-04, 02:36 PM
I dont like the chat format at all ... maybe I am just used to the old one ...
Jason
I have sent a pm to sSnakeSs asking to shed some light on this topic hopefully he will be able to tell us whats goin on
Cruciform
08-19-04, 02:46 PM
I don't suppose anyone knows the IRC server and channel the "new" chat is located on?
I'm not about to run the chat app on this machine.
Bartman
08-19-04, 02:49 PM
Id like to know that aswell..
I dont like these buttons at allll. Makes the site not look as professional as before.
Originally posted by Katt
The buttons are kinda weird, hanging around, watching everything you do. But I like the chat!
People actually chatting in it! C'mon join in guys!
The same thing could have happened with ssnakess chat had people used it more.. The difference there is people use it..
Mike, it's not on mIRC.. So..... :rolleyes:
dank7oo
08-19-04, 04:05 PM
Everyone who posted here .. have yo uclicked on the "?" yet. It is a "global connection" sorta thing ... weird.
Jason
Man, get rid of these flashing lights.
And they do look a bit suspicious... weird links and all.
I don't like them and it scares me to see Reptibid advertising here. Yes to a ssnakess auction program, but Reptibid... hum.. they don,t have my trust yet.
How much money is needed to keep ssnakess to ourselves ? We'll make a ssnakess-o-ton ! :)
I pledge 5$ :)
WYZ
Bartman
08-19-04, 04:40 PM
Ditto wyz
I have not ever donanted money to this website....sometimes it's because I am poor, other times I am lazy and never send it....so in my position I feel bad about saying anything as I use the site for free.
That being said, me being me, I am saying this....
It's kinda weird! The buttons are like HUGE and not in this websites style what-so-ever! The chat is very bland to me, and I will continue to use #ssnakess on MIRC for now. That whole website/forum seems kinda weird.
Change can be good and bad..... but I hope that ssnakess continues to be as individual and enjoyable as it always has been regardless of "mergers" or new chats.
Marisa
I was surfing around on the forum the buttons up top link too.....
How come we are linked to them, when they block out the word "ssnakess" and "ssnakess.com" from being posted on their forums? From the admittedly little I saw, everytime someone type "ssnakess" and "ssnakess.com" in a forum reply, it was starred/blanked out.
Marisa
jjnnbns
08-19-04, 05:42 PM
Hopefully the site wasn't sold or anything like that...
madison.s
08-19-04, 08:51 PM
i can see by the blue buttons that we've gone American .lol
justinO
08-19-04, 09:20 PM
well, if it is the case of not enough money being donated to the site, then we as a community cannot complain.
Actions speak louder then words. If donating more money would keep our site Canadian, then make it happen.
Bartman
08-19-04, 09:54 PM
Well we are just a bunch of lost users here. We have no answers.
Is it really donations we need to make to keep ssnakess to ourselves?
proud2bcanadian
08-19-04, 09:55 PM
I agree.
Maybe we should stop speculating, and wait until we get some real answers.
I don't mean to be rude or anything; just my opinion...
EDIT : If it's donations that we need, I'm in!
madison.s
08-19-04, 10:01 PM
hey we should all buy a ssnakess t-shirt it might help?
i am canadian lol
proud2bcanadian
08-19-04, 10:03 PM
Originally posted by lizlady
hey we should all buy a ssnakess t-shirt it might help?
lol
I wouldn't mind one!
I just emailed the admin. to see what's going on. Though, I'm pretty sure a lot of people have already done so.
just to keep the thread alive
May I ask what the point in that was?
Matt
so people would continue to see it???
reptilesalonica
08-20-04, 09:03 AM
Someone will say "Let's see it from both views, ssnakess has many members and the service for the servers is way too expensive".
I will say what I have to say and if something like what I mentioned earlier is happening then please let us know it. Then we can deside if we want to support snakes or leave ssnakess.
I am from Greece, I am into reptile forums 3 years now and I see that ssnakess is the best reptile forum. Let's keep it that way and get rid of those ugly buttons.
Friendly~Greg~
Darren179
08-20-04, 09:06 AM
isnt repti bid an american site? (correct me if im wrong). If its an american site and we are a canadian site wont it confuse some people going to the ssnakess classifieds noticing its mostly canadian then pehaps linking to reptibid and its all american prices.
daver676
08-20-04, 09:24 AM
Agreed. The buttons look rediculous.
And the almighty dollar wins again! :rolleyes:
latazyo
08-20-04, 09:44 AM
well I'm sure if you were the admin paying out of your *** for the site then the almighty dollar would win for you
puhlease
daver676
08-20-04, 09:46 AM
Originally posted by latazyo
well I'm sure if you were the admin paying out of your *** for the site then the almighty dollar would win for you
puhlease
Doesn't cost that much to register a domain and host a website if you design it yourself.
latazyo
08-20-04, 09:59 AM
no but it costs a lot to buy space for a board with 6000 users and upgrading equipment and etc
you dont' design message boards they're software
Originally posted by daver676
Doesn't cost that much to register a domain and host a website if you design it yourself.
While it may be affordable to run a regular website, don't let that fool you in to thinking that running a server of this magnitude is the same. This site is VERY expensive to run, especially with all the feebie services it provides to its 6000+ members. It has been a problem in the past, and obviously it has become too expensive...
Still no answers, huh? I will donate if that means the crap will go... I'll even donate on a regular basis and I'm AMERICAN LOL!
I have loved this site from the first time I laid eyes on it... wouldn't want it tarnished. Hope we find out something soon...
Tim_Cranwill
08-20-04, 10:53 AM
Everyone, just be happy you have a place like this to go. Jeff doesn't owe ANYONE a free site. Do the buttons REALLY make a difference at all? Sure they might look a bit out of place, but who cares?
Is the site all that different? Does it still have the same members and atmosphere? So they are a few blue jelly beans hanging out at the top of the screen. Not a big deal. :p
Like the grammy winning song states: Don't worry. Be happy... :D
Derrick
08-20-04, 10:57 AM
the 6000 members is a little deceiving 4000 of those members havent posted since the begining of the year and 3000 have less than 2 posts.
Anyway I see this all the time. People start complaining about advertising this and that that shows up on forums like they own the site. Its great that people be come so attacted to a site but in reality we dont own it Jeff does.
A rough assesment on my part of advertising rates and server cost is that this site should be paying for itself and should be clearing a little cash. I hope it is its an awesome site. Its his right to put as much adverting on it as he wants. are you actually going to not use it because of the extra buttons...I doubt it.
Frankly I hope this site grows to be considered more than a "canadian" site something to rival king snake and makes Jeff a mint. It is a far better run site.
I dont think we deserve to know whats up with the new buttons. Its a business decision and its not our business. If the site is in the red though I wouldnt mind hearing about that as I would chip in to help out.
ib_inked
08-20-04, 11:03 AM
Canadian/American, whatever. This site must cost a bundle to run and as far as I can tell there isn't a huge amount of financial support. I just come here for the information and the amusement
of seeing threads that include people that have the same hobby as me. If the sponsorship has to come from somewhere, it may as well be the americans. Their dollar is worth more anyhoo. eh?
The only reason I keep bringing it back up is because we still have no real answers as to why they are there. Is it really that hard for someone in charge of things here to announce to the 6000+ members what indeed is happening. Yes Tim I am very glad we have a place to hang out with like minded individuals, it's just that suspicious things on websites get me a little excited because I recently had to pay large to get my system rebuilt after a major crash. Yesterday when I first posted this nobody knew anything including the mods. I find that very odd for such a large site that the higher ups wouldn't at least let the mods know so they could explain to the members whats going on. So on that note hey mods WHAT IS GOING ON!!!
Dave
Would Jeff be able to down size the cost if he erased the acounts from people that havent posted this year? just a thought. I will also be donating 5-10 dollars hopefully more people will do so.
Matt
Derrick
08-20-04, 11:26 AM
Dave it pretty obvious that its nothing malicious. If you are just freaked out about something happening to your computer I wouldn't worry.
Was it a software or hardware crash? Just out of couriosity what did you pay? I redo 3-4 computers a month for nothing(usually end up getting a case of beer, a bottle of something or $50+ donation). You should make a computer geek friend the stores soak you every time. I'm actually logged in from one right now that I'm just finishing up(windows update is slow).
Derrick
08-20-04, 11:30 AM
Originally posted by Matt.B
Would Jeff be able to down size the cost if he erased the acounts from people that havent posted this year? just a thought. I will also be donating 5-10 dollars hopefully more people will do so.
Matt
well personaly if he was going to erase people it would probably be those that havent logged in this year. I just couldnt search that as a user. But it wouldnt actually save him anything.
ib_inked
08-20-04, 11:44 AM
As Derrick says, I dont know what kind of crash would cost you that much moolah? I'm sure it was more a pre-existing hardware crash than anything. But as he says, NEVER take it to a store like Future Shop or Best Buy. Make a geek friend and have them do it. I do it for trade as well. Beer is the most popular, but even a few bucks will have yer system fixed in probably a few minutes.
The PC shops are like car mechanics, they can tell you that your rotary inclosure flux capacitor hose needs to be reverted, and you'll pay for it!
The site isn't going anywhere.. It will remain the way it is, just with the buttons across the top, but from my understanding, the buttons perhaps will be revamped and not stick out like a sore thumb anymore..
-Matt
Hey Derrick, I used a company called Rent A Geek, I don't know what the problem was exactly but he told me that my comp was full of spyware and hyjacked so bad that it took them two days to sort it out and they had to completly rebuild my operating system?I don't know jack about computers really, ignorance isn't always bliss!! LOL!! This is the first forum i've ever joined, so I hope it's all good. Thanks for all the replies and sorry for the panic!!
Dave
lostwithin
08-20-04, 12:08 PM
Hey, I missed the first half of the thread I did notice the buttons, and after entering one of the sites ran into a few problems with my pc, but that is not the fault of ssnakess.com, I simply wont click the button again lol. I also agree with the idea of erasing accounts that are no longer active, most sites have a time limit, like if you remain inactive for more then 6 month you get deleted, and would have too re-register. seems fair enough, just cleans out the junk, And right at the end Matt_k mentioned changing them , all that would have too be done would be switch the background color of white too black. Almost anyone can do that, and it would then just blend into the top of the page. Everybody would be happy. I don’t see what the big deal with them is other then they stick out, but that’s being worked one everything takes time too be perfected.
Devon
I think the deal is that Canadians who joined ssnakess.com joined because we wanted a CANADIAN site....now please my American friends and members, I am not bashing you as I am a American myself, just living in Canada....
My whole point though is Canada needs PURE Canadian based areas for herps. USA markets are 100% different than those for us Canadians....even questions regarding simple heating issues can have different answers depending on your location.....and for a long time Canandian herpers have had nothing but a small section for Canandian only on most sites. SSNAKESS.COM was finally a CANADIAN place where you know you are speaking with people who are dealing in the same market, with the same breeders and with the same pricing.
If the buttons are just some new links, great. Really who cares. But if its a merger, or something else, then Canadians may feel they are once again becoming a minority on a American website.
Marisa
Does this mean we're switching to the new chat then? That would be a shame, to have to switch from an established, well-developed chat protocol complete with RFC's and mature codebases for daemons and clients alike to some crappy *** web applet.
daver676
08-20-04, 02:00 PM
Originally posted by Linds
While it may be affordable to run a regular website, don't let that fool you in to thinking that running a server of this magnitude is the same. This site is VERY expensive to run, especially with all the feebie services it provides to its 6000+ members. It has been a problem in the past, and obviously it has become too expensive...
The only big cost of running a website like this is bandwidth. The domain name would be $40 per year. Vbulletin is not terribly expensive. You could run the freeware if you wanted. All the ads plastered in the home page and scattered throughout the site should easily pay for the costs of running it, not to mention a little left over. But it's already been mentioned that it's not our site, it's Jeff's, and he can do what he wants with it.
It does look like crap though, and my donation won't be coming any sooner because of it. Just my $.02. Not looking for a flame war.
Well you obvoisly dont apreciat this site and are a pompus ignorant little putz. It costs250+ dllars a month to run this web site and tons of time from the moderators and jeff. If you dont apreciate all the work they do to keep this site goin then you shouldnt be here.
Matt
I think part of the $$$ problems for this site is they pay too much for colocation/dedicated, whichever they use. Nowdays, for $89.00USD/month, you can get a P4 2.4/512/80GB dedicated with 1,000GB of bandwidth from a reputable data center with multiple peers setup on bgp4. That should be more than adequate for this site. Data centers are always dropping in price, so if you negotiated your contract a long time ago, it's definitely worth your while to renegotiate your pricing.
herpslave
08-20-04, 02:32 PM
I try to stay away from reptileforums... That is for my own reasons that may be offensive. So I will not say why. I just find it not a good thing to associate with reptileforums. reptimart is fine in my view though. I respect this site but not reptilefroums period.
Derrick
08-20-04, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by daver676
It does look like crap though, and my donation won't be coming any sooner because of it. Just my $.02. Not looking for a flame war.
LOL thats a pretty lame comment and rather ignorant. As well as a dumb excuse not to donate. Why don't you admit the real reason is you're a tight wad like me:D.
daver676
08-20-04, 02:49 PM
Originally posted by Matt.B
Well you obvoisly dont apreciat this site and are a pompus ignorant little putz. It costs250+ dllars a month to run this web site and tons of time from the moderators and jeff. If you dont apreciate all the work they do to keep this site goin then you shouldnt be here.
Matt
Wow, way to stay mature about it. Putz. Really, I mean who uses that word? Just calm down son. I don't see "sSnakeSs Supporter" under your name either.
You can't tell me that with all the ads and banners and donations, that he isn't covering $250/month. If he isn't, then I'm wrong, and I apologize to Jeff.
That and I'm cheap. :D
Was trying to keep the post pg. Just because I havent donated does not mean that I wont and that I dont think that the moderator deserve more than what they get. The truth is this is a great site and its people like you that screw it up.
Matt
daver676
08-20-04, 03:29 PM
Originally posted by Matt.B
Was trying to keep the post pg. Just because I havent donated does not mean that I wont and that I dont think that the moderator deserve more than what they get. The truth is this is a great site and its people like you that screw it up.
Matt
:rolleyes:
Originally posted by daver676
You can't tell me that with all the ads and banners and donations, that he isn't covering $250/month. If he isn't, then I'm wrong, and I apologize to Jeff.
As I mentioned before, this has been a problem for a long time now, well before the site even reached half this size. The site costs thousands upon thousands to run, and all the supporters combined in a year cover maybe a month at best.
Cruciform
08-20-04, 03:43 PM
I certainly don't begrudge the admins seeking advertising support.
Not a big fan of some of the advertisers, nor of the button design, but it has *no* impact on the function of the site.
More power to them if it means less out of their pockets.
Laurynn
08-20-04, 10:49 PM
Just out of curiousity, how much do you guys think the site brings in a month?? I always find it humorous when people think it makes alot of money. Total recurring monthly income from the site is $60.00. And whatever else, like a yearly banner or a donation when they do come, which is rarely. How much do you people honestly think it made??
BoidKeeper
08-21-04, 11:20 AM
Hi Rich,
Well generally anything of this matter that contains he said she said stuff is normally removed. I don't know what will happen with this one.
Ah the politics of internet forums.
Cheers,
Trevor
Sean Day
08-21-04, 11:42 AM
Looking through Rich's posts I don't see why he was banned? Is this place turning into king snake?
edit - And now his original post was removed? Is this so everyone cant see how Innocent they were?
corn king 73
08-21-04, 12:01 PM
ya and they banned him again lol.
sSNAKESs.com
08-21-04, 12:43 PM
Rich had posted a letter that said lies had been stated in my letter about RF. If he had read the letter correctly then he would realize that Josh is no longer administrating that forum. I had said in my post and email that RF was under new an administration! Really I think that he is just trying to advertise his site after looking at how many times he posted a link to HerpCenter in his post!
Sean Day
08-21-04, 12:55 PM
No disrespect intended but I have seen many people post much worse with out being banned. Maybe his post should have been removed but banning seemed to go a little far.
Oh well, not sure why I care anyway LOL
asphyxia
08-21-04, 01:29 PM
This is all way to funny, Man, if you dont like the buttons dont use them. lol
I personally dont give a rats *** how many buttions there is.
Brian
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