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[JMan]

Hey all, I can't believe a lot of you are still here. I used to post a while back about my chams (Duke, Daisy, Clover).

I stopped keeping chams because I had some pretty bad luck with them. I think that may have been because I had never kept an adult, I always bought them really young. I realized that this is a BAD idea for a inexperienced cham owner, let alone a somewhat inexperienced reptile owner.

I adopted an iguana and I've had her for over a year now and she's incredibley healthy and growing like crazy (even though she's probably upwards 4 feet). I've only had to make one vet trip for a check up and x-ray to see if she was gravid and we came home with a lot of compliments and a clean bill of health.

Anyhoo, I'm starting to get interested in chams again and thinking about giving it another try. I've already decided I'm going to get either an adult or a sub-adult but I'm wondering which kind I should get... that's where you guys come in. Any thoughts? I'm thinking either a veiled or a panther, not sure though. I would normally go with a veiled except I remember that they can be very aggressive. Then again, panthers are harder to care for (I think) and much more expensive. What about a jacksons? How are they in terms of aggresion/difficulty to care for?

Also, if somebody could point me towards some reliable breeders I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks for any and all help.

Jeremy

[J-Man]

This is my old account... I couldn't remember the exact username.

[Bartman]

Maybe its just mine, or maybe its because hes not full grown (but close to getting their) but my veiled is extremely relaxed unless confronted in a way where it would seem threatining to any reptile. Once he is out, I can take him outside or let him walk around on my shoulder. Since I got him he has been like that.

It could either be how they are kept or previous owners. I have also handled a full grown veiled female where I volunteer and I saw no signs of aggression. I could just be lucky though :D

[meow_mix450]

if you bought these chameleons from a pet store thats probly why they died on you. But yes your best bet would be a sub-adult or and adult. I would also try to find a breeder in your area but i dont know any, sorry. I would say get a panther they are more expensive and harder to care for, but if your willing to commit to it then i would suggest a panther

Meow

[dank7oo]

JMan (and the chornicles of JMan). I remember you and Duke quite well.

After experiancing both veileds and panthers, I sometimes wonder why veilds are sold as beginner chameleons. I was fine with mine for 3 years, and although agressive, I managed to find a system which I could take him out. However, as he got more aggressive, and stopped eating, I decided it would be better off if I gave him to someone much more experianced (Trace).

I personally like the panthers a gazillion times better. They have great colors and usually a quite mild temperment. I have two adult males right now, and one scratches to come out of his cage when we go to spray him (and lift up his head so we will rub his chin) and the other, while agressive, is nothing compared to the veilds, and I do not mind working with him.

Thats just my opinion and experiances, but it has to be a pet you will love and enjoy, so subsequently the decission is all yours.

Best of luck.

Jason

[meow_mix450]

i think the only reason veilds are more known for beginners is cause its easy to care for and most common in pet stores. Then if you start likling these guys they move on to panther, but you have a point i dont understand why they cant be a beginner a lot of people suggest veilds but i my self suggest panthers

Meow

[J-Man]

Thanks for the replies. Yeah I remember you, too dank.

Seems like a panther would be best but I'm not sure.

Basically I'm wondering which is the mosty hardy out of Veileds, Jacksons or Panther? Earlier I said "easiest to care for" but I don't think I should have put it that way. I'm willing to commit time and energy it's just that when I had young veileds no matter what I did they would get sick. Trace (you remember her) was helping me out and she was saying I seemed to be doing everything perfectly.

Thanks again,
Jeremy

[dank7oo]

Veileds would be the hardiest chameleon out there. Panthers would be a close second. And jacksons require quite a precise temperature drop at night and humidity levels.

Jason

[J-Man]

Ok. Thanks for the help. That's how I remember it also.

So, I think if I get a cham it'll be an adult veiled. I still have some thinking/research to do.

Thanks again
Jeremy

[Pookie]

Does anyone have any more comments on the Jacksons? I'm in the same situation as J-Man....had a veild that got sick on me and now i'm looking to get another. I think the jacksons look really neat w/ their horns. but i'm also leaning towards a panther,which is all people tend to talk about. Any further help would be, well, helpful! :)

[Trace]

Any further help would be, well, helpful!

Ah... another Monty Python fanatic.

Well I've got only one thing to say to you Pookie and JMan:

NI!

Cheers!

Trace

[Pookie]

Ha, oh thanks Trace! You're extra.... helpful! LOL
But just so you know....some call me....TIM?! ;)

[J-Man]

Originally posted by Trace
Ah... another Monty Python fanatic.

Well I've got only one thing to say to you Pookie and JMan:

NI!

Cheers!

Trace

Oh yeah, Trace? IT sure is nice to see you, ins't IT?