Where to buy a Panther around Edmonton?

[Roadracer]

I'm still doing all the research for getting my first cham, I want to make sure I do it right and don't kill my first one. I've got sveral books I'm reading and the web has some great sites to help newbies like me get started. I've kinda got my heart set on a panther cham although it seems like veiled's are the easiest to get.

So I'm wondering if anyone can give me some info on where to purchase a panther somewhere in alberta? The local pet shops seem to only have veiled's and I'm not that comfortable buying from a pet store, I'd rather go to a breeder. I'm thinking it might be best to wait until the reptile show in red deer in august, unless someone knows of a local breeder.

thanks for your help and all the great info on here.

[meow_mix450]

i also suggest you wait until the red deer show it will be worth it. I also think you should go with Panther all the way, they isnt much difference between veilds and panther. Veilded chameleons tend to be more agressive then Panthers, but each one has its own perrsonality. But wait until the show:) If you have any questions just ask

Meow

[heebie_geebies]

Roadracer, you and I are in the same boat. I have been reading so much on ssnakess and other places to research my first cham investment. Myself, I am waiting until the Red Deer show for my purchase. One of the pet stores here in S'toon has chams, but from the info I have read here he doesn't seem to provide proper living conditions (i.e. water dish, one lonely branch). Sure it's a bit of a trek to Red Deer, but the bonus is the ol' lady can visit her sister who will provide free lodging for us. I just have to figure out the proper way to transport a cham for a 6 or so hour car ride. As you can see I am still researching too.
Perhaps I see you at the show.

meow_mix450, you say there is not much difference between veiled and panthers. Other than aggressiveness, what are the other differences? I will research the veiled vs. panther differences/similarities at home later tonight (I am at work, heh heh), but I was just looking for your opinion/info.

Thanks

[DNA Reptiles]

Hi Guys.... I have been breeding veiled chameleons for about 8 years now and would strongly recommend that you start off with these guys. They are hardy little creatures and as long as you have adequate cages and access to plenty of crickets you should do well. You should also thoroughly research whether you want a male or female...the females will lay eggs on a regular basis regardless of whether there is a male around or not (obviously the eggs will be infertile if no male). Eggs take appproximately 6 months to incubate. Males. of course, are not the wonderful green colours that the females are, but nevertheless still have colour in them.
I have not had good luck with my Rainbow panthers - they were great to keep, but the year long incubation makes it difficult to maintain the correct temperatures.
Hope this helps.....Andrea.

[Big Mike]

If you do decide to get a veiled cham...I can tell you where to get one.

Atilla Kun, the president of the Edmonton Reptile & Amphibian Society, breeds them here in Edmonton. His e-mail address is

attilahypnotist@yahoo.com

[meow_mix450]

I guess everyone has there own opinion on this, some prefer panthers some perfer veilds, i personally perfer panthers over veilds. If your not gonna be breeding, panther will be a great pet, as long as you are commited to care for these guys. I would suggest you get a male so you do not have to worry about egg laying and such.

What i meant by"not much difference between veiled and panthers" is the care, they both require the same care. They both need a dripper, heat lamp etc. But there are difference's such as species wise...Veilds will eat vege's and most panthers will not. The humdity will be different.

Meow

[Collide]

IMHO there is a huge difference in Veilds and Panthers, panthers nees alot more humitidy and much more watering and slightly lower temps then Veilds. Veilds are much more tollerent of any change or less then ideal environment this is what makes them such a good beginner cham. A panther that goes without water would dehydrate very quiclky where veilds would take a much longer time to dehydrate. Just using this as a example. I think due to the ability of a veild to handel these conditions and the inability of a panthere to, this makes a veild (although soem times pissy) a better choice for beginners. Just my opinion of course.

[meow_mix450]

If you put it that way collide is right. But i still think a panther is still great for beginners, everyone has to start somewhere

Meow