Stripers hatching pic

[gonesnakee]

Heres my excitement for the day WOO HOO! These are the result of breeding both my Amel & Anery striped males to my "normal" motley striped female. There looks to be reg, amel, anery & maybe even a snow head pipping so it will be an interesting mix. I also have reg amels hatching right now & wouldn't be surprised that when I check later to see some more clutches pipping. So it begins :D Mark
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[Katt]

I want that one!!!

[treegirl]

What an amazing shot! The stripey baby is a real beauty!
And all the little heads popping out....I ~love~ this shot!!!!

thanks!

tree

[wyz]

Ouh ! very nice !!!

That first one seems to have a pretty nice full stripe !

Aren't mix clutches so freakin' cool !? :)

congrats.

WYZ

[vanderkm]

I want the amel (or two or three)!! And maybe the snow and anery too!!

Excellent news Mark - they look great! Seriously - keep in touch with news on those! Don't wholesale them! I will be in Calgary the last week of July - cash in hand!


mary v.

[Invictus]

No no.... I must have the Anery striped!!!! I'll sell my soul to beat Mary to it. :D

Congrats Mark!!!

[Katt]

Damn you all. I emailed Mark!!

I want the normal stripes actually, I really do want an anery stripe, but oh well.

Got the amel stripe already, so ha ha ha!!

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[thunder]

what a great looking little guy! so bright! lucky skunk

[gonesnakee]

THX all! Remember that I also have clutches from an Amel & an Anery female bred to the same 2 males also. They were both due to hatch before these guys but I guess not. I'll be looking forward to seeing what all comes out anyhow, especially later tonight from this clutch. Mary V. & Katt get frist dibs after me of course Heh Heh as they have both been waiting since last season when it was "slugville". Couple of new snakes in the mix & some earlier breeding turned the tables this year though. I'll try to get some more pics of these little ones for sure later. THX Mark I.

[Tim_Cranwill]

Very cool, Mark! :)

If you have any left by the end of August, maybe I'll have to grab one too! :D

[HetForHuman]

Lookin good Mark..

Wanna trade? i have a few simpson things you might want ;)

[McPatch]

Very nice Mark.Put me down for a pair.Anery or amel.

[Simon]

Nice~
congrats on the clutch~

Stripes are really nice~~

[Jeff_Favelle]

Ok, ome, NOW I'm blind Katt, holy MOLY!!

And two, that's a crazy clutch Mark. Get the final count man, that's pretty cool to have so much variety!

[Clownfishie]

Stripers rock, congrats Mark! :) Looks like quite the clutch you've got there....


Jen

[lostwithin]

Ok, I was completely sworn off corn snakes until people started popping up with pics pf Stripers. Actually I don’t have any colubrids in my collection, but that little guy in awsome and I LOVE the anery stripers.
Pardon my ignorance but what's the price range on those guys ?? Both normal stripers and anery's, I have no clue when it comes too the world of corn snakes.

Devon

[David Kwok]

makes me want to breed corn snakes.... lol

congrats... very nice.... and nice striper Katt.... it didnt look like much when it was a baby...

Dave

[Vanan]

makes me want to breed corn snakes.... lol

What next? Pigs flying?!

[gonesnakee]

THX again all & Hey Vanan "What next? Pigs flying?!" Quite possibly YES because even BigDan is probably going to buy some. He currently has 0 Colubrids, but after seeing these ones hes talking about buying Corns LOL
As far as prices go in Western Canada for stripers & Motleys anywhere from $60 - $150+ depending on phase, pattern etc. A normal striper being close to $60, Amels $60-90, Snows around $90 & Anerys upto $120. Exceptional motleys or stripers can be more. Mark
P.S. Updates later as they are taking their own sweet time LOL & the other 2 clutches are yet to pip, DOH!
P.P.S. Ghosts, Snows & Ivory CKs pipping/hatching today WOO HOO!

[Simon]

Originally posted by gonesnakee
A normal striper being close to $60, Amels $60-90, Snows around $90 & Anerys upto $120.

P.P.S. Ghosts, Snows & Ivory CKs pipping/hatching today WOO HOO!

Just wondering as I find the pricing a bit funny.
How come Normal = $60, Amel = $60-$90, Snows = $90, Anerys = $120?

Cause the way that I see it is that Normal should be lowest, Anery and Amels are both recessive genes so should be the same price Snows are doublt homozygous for two recessive genes, thus the hardest to get out of the other 'morphs' so it should be the most expensive. But of course this is my point of view only as I see genetics in corns only....LOL....and was wondering how you do your pricing~ (Not to stir up any fire or anything...really just wondering)

Oh congrats on the pippings on teh ghosts, snows and Ivory CKs~~

Remember to post more pics

[Scales Zoo]

Simon, maybe that is why Dan is getting some, he probably spoke for the snow. And the triple het thing....

But Anery stripes is what most people just buying one for a pet seem to want out here, cause they look so nice as adults. And out here demand is higher than the supply.

Ryan

[damzookeeper]

Holy moly! Do you wear sun glasses when you take that boy out katt? What a gorgious snake! wouldn't mind having something like that in my collection. Wowzers!

[Simon]

Originally posted by Scales Zoo
Simon, maybe that is why Dan is getting some, he probably spoke for the snow. And the triple het thing....

But Anery stripes is what most people just buying one for a pet seem to want out here, cause they look so nice as adults. And out here demand is higher than the supply.

Ryan

Well yeah I do think that the anery striped is in higher demand thus the higher pricing. This is totally understandable. But at the same time (in my point of view) if you look at the supply side, it is harder to get the snow striped. Since getting a triple homozygous gene showing in one snake is harder than getting a double homozygous gene in one snake. So this is why I think that the snow striped are to be higher price. Plus a snow striped CAN make some anery striped too if you breed it the right way~
Plus you can even get some amels striped if you want....you know what I mean?

[Katt]

I'm with Ryan. Anery is more sought after. A snow stripe and amel stripe don't have the same visual impact as an anery stripe.

[Vanan]

What is this world coming to? People wanting to breed icky yucky corns?! ;) :D

[gonesnakee]

Simon, these are prices that I quoted off of other breeeders lists & yes the Anerys seem to be very popular, but I totally see your point & depending on what all pops out they (snows) may be more than the others based on supply. Mark

[Simon]

Oh I definitely know what you mean Mark
like I said, this year is more or less anerys than other stuff.
So yeah that does apply to the supply too.

But from what I think, I would rather base it on how 'hard' it is to get the snake and the amount of genetics that are in the snake to price snakes instead of demand.

As you stated before, supply changes all the time...then would that mean every year's pricing would be different then?

So what I mean is this year you might get quite a few snow striped and you're selling it at $90, but what if next year you produce only 1? Are you still going to sell it at $90? Or is the price going to go up? Cause as you know, people don't like prices to go up...any increase in price would mean driving consumers away. So this is basicaly why I always think that the genetics should be affecting the price instead of just pure supply and demand....but this is very personal as I have stated many time~~

of course what each individual price his/her snake is up to him/her self.

[Simon]

Oh I definitely know what you mean Mark
like I said, this year is more or less anerys than other stuff.
So yeah that does apply to the supply too.

But from what I think, I would rather base it on how 'hard' it is to get the snake and the amount of genetics that are in the snake to price snakes instead of demand.

As you stated before, supply changes all the time...then would that mean every year's pricing would be different then?

So what I mean is this year you might get quite a few snow striped and you're selling it at $90, but what if next year you produce only 1? Are you still going to sell it at $90? Or is the price going to go up? Cause as you know, people don't like prices to go up...any increase in price would mean driving consumers away. So this is basicaly why I always think that the genetics should be affecting the price instead of just pure supply and demand....but this is very personal as I have stated many time~~

of course what each individual price his/her snake is up to him/her self.

[vanderkm]

A big part of the pricing issue remains demand though - despite the cost and expense of developing certain genetic combinations - if the end result isn't attractive to buyers, there is no market - whether there are three or four recessive genes combined in one animal. A striped, hypo blizzard can only sell for more $$ to a breeder who wants the genes, because to anyone else it is just a white corn - no different from any ordinary blizzard. It is hard to get buyers to pay more for something just because it is rare if they don't find it visually appealing.

The other issue with high prices for multiple recessives is that once they are established - it is easy to make more of them - any time you breed two together, all the progeny are the same. That seems to be why snows are less desirable than even amels out here - there are a lot of people with pairs of snows producing nothing but snows in every clutch - so plenty around. Only the genetics nuts know how hard it is to get the striped into that and get striped snows several generations down the road.

Personally I hope Mark keeps that price range - I want the snow striped more than the anery!! (once I have the amel!)

mary v.

[ChristinaM]

pics need more pics. Those are some kick butt snakes Mark. Excellent specimens.