Police confiscate venomous snakes from Bismarck apartment

[Burium]

http://22.in-forum.com/ap/index.cfm?page=view&id=D83J1AC82


Kelly

[MouseKilla]

I like how the police somehow know how much danger these guys were in. It's funny how much more dangerous things are once they become illegal. lol!

For all we know these guys were doing things with all the right gear...then again they were foolish enough to seek help from someone they clearly shouldn't have trusted. Hopefully the animals are in good hands at the zoo.

[latazyo]

Burium, are you from ND, I've noticed that you've posted a few articles from the Fargo newspaper lately...

I would like to see that green mamba, I might head over there to check it out at the zoo if it's on display

[mettle]

I agree. Not enough info on setups, etc was given to pass judgement on these guys. Shame on them for keeping illegal animals. But then again - SO many people do. They probably didn't take it seriously because they knew what they were doing.

[thunder]

when the animals we love are outlawed, should we be forced to euthanize them? when a species i keep was outlawed in my state, i donated the majority of my breeding group to the museum i worked at, as they had a permit to keep such animals. however, one individual who i had hatched out ten years ago and kept ever since, and i am quite attached to him, is deformed and therefor inappropriate for a display. because his handicap requires special care, i could not find another home for him, and rather than put him down i still keep him, albeit illegally. the main reason i gave up the rest of the group was that if i ever got caught with them, the state's policy is immediate euthanasia.

[Burium]

Latazyo, I have pm'd you before. Yes, I was born and raised in Fargo. Almost 3 years ago we moved to the Netherlands. I still consider Fargo and North Dakota my home.

Kelly

[latazyo]

I just moved to Fargo from Minot to go to NDSU, I love it here

[latazyo]

here is another link that is more in depth

http://www.bismarcktribune.com/articles/2004/07/03/news/local/nws03.txt

[C.m.pyrrhus]

You know, this goes on across the country here in many collections. Personally, I feel that the 'defendants' should have looked further into there town laws concerning venomous species, but I honestly do not see anything majorly wrong on thier behalf, besides their lack of protocol and the serious nature these nakes posess. They 'at least' looked into state law concerning the captive situation of their snakes. Still aint enough.

Greff and Feist were charged Friday with reckless endangerment for putting their neighbors in danger, Burleigh County Assistant State's Attorney Julie Lawyer said. Greff is being held in the Burleigh County jail on a $500 cash bond, and an arrest warrant was issued for Feist.

As for this statement, this can be applied to any snake or animal, depending on how one looks at it. Laws are made, but do you think they are seriously considering the facts and statistics concerning them? I see the serious "reckless endangerment" as a bit obscene. There are more dangerous animal in homes today IMO, but still we look at venomous creatures as something we need to conntrol with utter mind-boggling laws.

The only thing that trully concerns me was this quote by the owner:
He said the mamba was the only snake to escape and although it moved "really quick" Greff and Feist caught it when it went under a bed. Greff said no one has been bitten by the snakes.

Take these sort of circumstances into concideration when thinking about purchasing and keeping venomous species. Although I believe that any person has the American and civil right to collect what they wish, it is still a great idea to check on city and state laws, along with understanding proper protocols when it comes to keeping such snakes in captivity. Simply living close to a hospital does not mean s*#t, to be frank. Dead is dead, and worse off you just may be in a world of trouble in several ways.

[andytheboa]

corect me if i'm wrong but an albino monocle cobra can not "spit" can it?

[latazyo]

things just keep getting worse for this guy
http://www.bismarcktribune.com/30dayarchives/7-13-2004/nws01.html