patternless

[Senator Gracken]

anyone ever heard of a patternless veiled?

[meow_mix450]

wut do you meen, just a plain colour such a bright green

Meow

[Senator Gracken]

well no striping unless stressed and when normal plain green with 3 small yellow dots.

[Brock]

I've seen a leucisitc veiled. Most amazing chameleon I've seen, even on top of any panthers and parsonii.

-Brock

[CDN-Cresties]

Originally posted by Brock
I've seen a leucisitc veiled. Most amazing chameleon I've seen, even on top of any panthers and parsonii.

-Brock

Where did you see that veild? Im very interested to see something like that. Thanks. :)

[kidchameleon]

Originally posted by Senator Gracken
well no striping unless stressed and when normal plain green with 3 small yellow dots. sounds like what my female looks like, except the spots are whitish/orange

[vtbigyellow]

my female looks like that too

[Brock]

I saw the leucistic veiled, although the owner called him a 'pastel veiled' (yes it was male too so it was even more amazing) at his private collection in Richmond, Vancouver. The owner's name was Craig Goldie, but this was going on 4 years ago and the male has died, but there are a ton of veileds out there now carrying that gene, and apparently my male veiled is a second generation descendant from the pastel one. Craig has been out of the hobby for two years though, he had some amazing chameleons, Brookesia perarmata, Chamaeleo quadricornus, fischerii, weirnerii, and about 20 other species, it was amazing. He also had some Uroplatus ebenauei (spell?) and some extremely rare Malaysian water alligator skinks that were really cool.

-Brock

[Pirranha]

what ever happened to his Brookesia perarmata? i think those are the coolest lil chameleons ive seen, but super rare in north america.

[huhet]

Originally posted by Pirranha
what ever happened to his Brookesia perarmata? i think those are the coolest lil chameleons ive seen, but super rare in north america.

i believe they're now illegal to export from madagascar.

[dank7oo]

Uh huh ... *not a beliver*

[vipervenom]

If I'm not mistaken, all chams except Panthers, Carpets, and Rhampholeons are banned for exporting from the wild.

[Brock]

The B. perarmata were sold to someone else, although I'm not sure who. They were originally exported from a breeder in the US, I think it was Pacific Coast Reptiles or something along those lines.

-Brock

[huhet]

Originally posted by dank7oo
Uh huh ... *not a beliver*

according to this website (http://www.on.ec.gc.ca/wildlife/newsletters/or03-e.html) B. perarmata is Cites Appendix I as of November 2002. you can also check the cites.org's list here (http://www.cites.org/eng/append/appendices.shtml). in case you don't know (i didn't) "Appendix I includes species threatened with extinction. Trade in specimens of these species is permitted only in exceptional circumstances." (cites.org).

[dank7oo]

Not a beleiver of albinos ....

Jason

[huhet]

my bad man. i thought you were playing off my saying "i believe" nevermind.

[dank7oo]

LOL - not a problem

Jason

[Brock]

I never said it was albino, Mr. Jason, I said it was leucistic.

[Bartman]

pics?

[dank7oo]

Ok Mr. Brock (see how cool you are) ... I still dont care. Quite frankly I've seen the albino Jax pic and personally think it is all a hoax. Until I see one FIRST HAND there is no changing my views.

Jason