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latazyo
06-07-04, 01:08 PM
here is a website my buddy made temporarily for this bizarre snake

http://d3639621.i69.internetwonders.com/redtail.htm

what should we make of it?

it seems to be genetic, two different babies in 2 different years

nicola_boulton
06-07-04, 01:13 PM
there amazing! never seen a reduced pattern like that before. And those babies from last year(pic at the bottom of the site) are really nice and clean. Good luck with the breeding.

Drew S
06-07-04, 01:16 PM
Wow, that snake looks so...weird.

I like it :D

BoidKeeper
06-07-04, 01:21 PM
That's too bad, the pattern is what I love about a boa.
To each their own. Beauty is in the eye I guess.
Cheers,
Trevor

Invictus
06-07-04, 01:26 PM
I absolutely love the look of the patternless, and I would personally kill for one.

If it's been proven 2 years in a row, it is safe to say that this IS genetic. You won't know until you breed one of the reduced patterns to a normal boa whether or not the trait is co-dominant, but if both parents are normals, then the siblings would be 66% hets.

Jezabel
06-07-04, 04:20 PM
But from what I read, in the 2 litter he had, he only got 1 paterless in each litter, like if the parents where double het. Cause it's almost impossible staticly that it's simple recessive, ever less co dominant.

Either way, awesome looking snake.

Invictus
06-07-04, 04:29 PM
It's not almost impossible at all. I've heard of people breeding 100% het albino boas and getting NO albinos from it, just 25 normals that are 50% het. But to get a patternless 2 years in a row without one of the parents being patternless could mean that the parents are heterozygous for the co-dominant mutation, kind of like the "Fire Balls" that re het for Leucistic... Leucistic is co-dominant, and the "fire ball" is the heterozygous form.

Anyway, bottom line is, it *could* happen. It's obviously inheritable somehow.

Jezabel
06-07-04, 06:31 PM
I agree it's inheritable, I just say to get 1 in a litter of boa, 2 years in a row, it looking more like the parent are double het, like the snow, you get 1 snow on 16 boa. I thought the het for co-dominant morph are visible het, and here both parents are normal. I agree it can happen maybe once that from 2 100% het albino you don't get one but two year in a row, that really reallt unluky, since boa get so many babies.

latazyo
06-08-04, 12:58 AM
I should definitely state that this snake is not mine, nor do I possess any of the siblings...he doesn't participate on this board, so that is why I am posting herrrre

Jeff_Favelle
06-08-04, 01:22 AM
That thing ROCKS. Imagine getting Salmon or Anery (or BOTH) into that??!! Holy moly. That's up there with Moteleys! Get 'er done and figure out what's going on!! :D

Mugwump
06-08-04, 06:46 AM
Nice