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Dark_Angel_25
06-01-04, 06:55 PM
This is Zipper...

http://img29.photobucket.com/albums/v88/Dark_Angel_25/Zippercheese2.jpg
http://img29.photobucket.com/albums/v88/Dark_Angel_25/Zipperhunt.jpg
http://img29.photobucket.com/albums/v88/Dark_Angel_25/Zipper4.jpg
http://img29.photobucket.com/albums/v88/Dark_Angel_25/Zipper_Drunk.jpg

This is Freckles...

http://img29.photobucket.com/albums/v88/Dark_Angel_25/Freckles_tree2.jpg
http://img29.photobucket.com/albums/v88/Dark_Angel_25/Freckles4.jpg
http://img29.photobucket.com/albums/v88/Dark_Angel_25/Freckles_glass.jpg
http://img29.photobucket.com/albums/v88/Dark_Angel_25/Freckles5.jpg
http://img29.photobucket.com/albums/v88/Dark_Angel_25/Freckles.jpg

PDDM
06-01-04, 07:11 PM
OMG!There both really cool...But Freckles Is Really beautiful...Howd she get that high on the branch?!

Dark_Angel_25
06-01-04, 07:23 PM
Hey Paul, She climbed it. she will actually spend LOTS of time inthat branch. She loves it. I had to lower it even because she managed somehow to climb OUT of her tank...

Very resourceful little bugger!!

PDDM
06-01-04, 07:29 PM
Lol crazy...how old are they?How many grams and inches?

Dark_Angel_25
06-01-04, 07:39 PM
I actually have never weighed them, I need to buy a scale that works in grams. As for age they are both sisters.. I belive they are about 10 months old.. I haven't measured them either...

PDDM
06-01-04, 07:41 PM
hmmm interesting how often do you feed them and what do you feed them

Dark_Angel_25
06-01-04, 07:49 PM
I feed them everyday, crickets, dusted with Calcium every 2 to 3 feedings. And they have a calcium dish (ashtray) in the tank where I put mealies. That's it. now and then I may give them a silkworm but that is really rare, and they actually have only had 1 each since I owned them. Zipper is bigger than Freckles, but they both eat their fill and are healthy and happy. I can't complain. :)

nicola_boulton
06-01-04, 08:18 PM
i LOVE zipper in the 4th pic! thats so cute! looks like he's had a very hard day, and is going for a nap, lol

PDDM
06-01-04, 08:54 PM
10 months old you say???hmmm my leos about 9 and its form is like less then your 2....when was the real time they really popped and just grew???My leos having this whole deal with eggs and i want her to be huge after she lays...how long did it take to see that fat start to really show in the tail???i feed mine and feed her her stomach is really round(especialy since shes gravid) but her tail isnt as big as your two beauties :D

Matt.B
06-02-04, 07:33 AM
CUTE!!!!! LOL I wish mine would pose for me but nooo all they want to do is sleep :P
Matt

Dark_Angel_25
06-02-04, 07:42 AM
Paul, The tails just grew with the body. Tonight I will get pics of the tails. Freckles tail is not that fat, Zipper's is a little bigger. As for your, being that she is gravid, and I remember you saying she was only 26 grams, any extra fat stores probably got used up when her body was creating the eggs. once she give birth (lays) you'll have to just feed her until she won't eat anymore, and I belive you said you only give mealies, well this is probably part of it too. although I know that mealies are used as a main staple by a lot of people, I would think crickets are maybe more fatening, although I couldn't say. All I know is they eat about 5-10 crix each a day and mealies as they want because I leave them inthe dish... After yours lays, try a really small pinkie... I did try that with mine, and they showed interest but wouldn't eat it...

jay76
06-02-04, 07:50 AM
Very nice pictures. Cute leos you have there

HeatherK
06-02-04, 09:37 AM
Very cute pictures, really shows their character. Love the last shot where Freckles is winking :)

Sheldon & Tori
06-03-04, 02:02 AM
paul ---> all of our gecko's (except for two and the babies) get kingworms as a staple......i read in the reptile magazine that mealies are very high in fat (and kingworms being almost the same have bulked up some of my leo's nicely one actually went from about 35 grams to 53 grams in about a month)......we have one gecko that has laid a whopping 6 eggs for us so far and looks like she may be developing her 7th and 8th eggs right now (she weighs about 28-30 grams, it varies each week) and in between egg layings she fattens up nicely (to about 35 grams before right before she lays, she also has a nice fat tail) and then after she lays them her tail shrinks again and it's back to square one.......did you breed yours on purpose? because most breeders wait till they're about 40-50 grams before breeding......ours was accidental as we were new and we were told that our late male was a female, and now we have two babies and three fertile eggs in the incubator......but just keep feeding her and giving her calcium as well as a moist hide and in time she will fatten up......also, i had heard that younger geckos that become gravid are usually stunted......i've noticed this with our little one and am not expecting her to get to average size......hope i kinda helped with your question......it's late and i don't even remember what i typed lol!

good luck with the eggs!
sheldon and tori

p.s. dark angel----> we used to have a tank with no lid and a plant like that in it and one of our geckos got out and was missing for four days! you may want to cover the cage in that spot with something just to be safe!

Matt.B
06-03-04, 07:42 AM
PLZ PLZ PLZ stop feeding your leos kingworms!!!!! they are fed hormones that stop them from maturing so that they keep growing which in turn can effect your leos sexual maturity age. If you want something big go for supers.
Matt

PDDM
06-03-04, 03:42 PM
matt,your great lol your lookin out for everyones leos.

S and T-the eggs are infertile,so i didnt breed her at all lol

Optimus Prime
06-03-04, 05:37 PM
Nice leo very pretty.

ejoech
06-04-04, 11:30 PM
Yeah except Matt is wrong. Kingworms are NOT fed hormones. They are just a different worm/different beatle. People always get these confused. GIANT MEALWORMS, however, are given hormones..they are primarily used as bait.

DragnDrop
06-05-04, 08:48 AM
Originally posted by Matt.B
PLZ PLZ PLZ stop feeding your leos kingworms!!!!! they are fed hormones that stop them from maturing so that they keep growing which in turn can effect your leos sexual maturity age. If you want something big go for supers.
Matt


Here's a quote from the Wormman website:

"The scientific name for the Superworm is zophobas morio. The Superworm is also known by another common name, Kingworm. Superworms are used for feeding reptiles, birds, and for bait. "

http://www.wormman.com/superworms.htm


LARGE MEAL WORMS OR GIANTS

These beauties are over twice the size of traditional meal worms. These are guaranteed to be pest free! Great for fishing. Fresh water fish love these. These are used by fishermen all over the world to snag the big ones. The best storage temperature would be 42-55 degrees. We sell them by the cup or in bulk in our catalog. Great for bait! Giants are Tenebrio Molitor.

http://www.wormman.com/giants.htm

Superworms (zoophobas) are safe, and an excellent food. The giant mealworms (kingworms) are the mealies on steroids, which should be avoided. If you need the extra large size 'worm' to feed to your animals, get zoophobas.

Matt.B
06-05-04, 05:22 PM
Thankyou for clearing that up. Like I said supers are not king worms and king worms are mealworms on hormones so that they dont mature.
Matt

DragnDrop
06-05-04, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by Matt.B
Thankyou for clearing that up. Like I said supers are not king worms and king worms are mealworms on hormones so that they dont mature.
Matt


Nope, let's try this again.

Superworns are Kingworms . They are both interchangeable common names for Zoophobus Morio (also spelled Zoophobas). They are good food. They're safe. They're loved by adult geckos (and if you have tiny ones, you can feed them to smaller geckos).

Giant Mealworms are just normal mealworms on steroids. They're not good to use for reptile food (or any other animals) because of the risk of 'steroid residue' building up in your animals over time. The giants were originally produced for fish bait. It doesn't matter if there's any steroid residue in them here, since the fish isn't going to live past getting caught, he won't be able to build up residue.... he's done like dinner already.


Matt.B, please check your info before posting. It's easy to confuse people, newbies are especially susceptible to inaccurate info. I realize you're trying to help, but sometimes it's best to recheck your sources before speaking.

Matt.B
06-05-04, 05:57 PM
Well I can tell you over here king worms are mealworms mabey not in T.O but in calgary they are.
Matt