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emerson
05-31-04, 02:32 PM
I have two leos, a male and a female, and was wondering if there's an established way to put them in the same enclosure? The male is in a 20g, the female in a 25g (she was in with two others, which I've sold). Can I put them together even though they haven't been together at all before?

Matt.B
05-31-04, 02:39 PM
You could but they are to young to breed but they will try which would be fatal to the female. When they are older you can house them together but you wouldhave to seperate tem after a week or two because the male will breed constantly with her which is very stressfull.
Matt

PDDM
05-31-04, 02:52 PM
matt....on the topic of the wieght on age what is the recomended wieght to breed??Mines laying unfertile eggs and shes only 26 grams!

Matt.B
05-31-04, 02:57 PM
A good laying weight is 40g+ I personaly wait untill they are over a year and 45g
Matt

PDDM
05-31-04, 03:02 PM
uh oh im wooried now :(

Matt.B
05-31-04, 03:05 PM
Just make sure that you dont stress her and and give her calcium at every feeding.
Matt

emerson
05-31-04, 03:12 PM
Originally posted by Matt.B
You could but they are to young to breed but they will try which would be fatal to the female. When they are older you can house them together but you wouldhave to seperate tem after a week or two because the male will breed constantly with her which is very stressfull.
Matt

Interesting. I did not, however, specify an age. As a matter of fact the male 3 years old and the female is 2 1/2, and they're the same size and very healthy.

Matt.B
05-31-04, 03:14 PM
Then you have two very skiny and/or sick animals.
Matt

emerson
05-31-04, 03:39 PM
Originally posted by Matt.B
Then you have two very skiny and/or sick animals.
Matt

I think we're experiencing some confusion here. I said that the male is IN a 20g, as in a 20 gallon tank, and the female is in a 25 gallon. Not "g" as in "gram." I haven't weighed them, but they're both normal sized adults.

PDDM
05-31-04, 03:39 PM
yeah 3 years should be like 45-60 grams

emerson
05-31-04, 03:41 PM
Once again, *IN* a 20 gallon tank, NOT weighing 20 grams.

PDDM
05-31-04, 03:46 PM
eek sry emersion we mustve posted at the same time b4 sry lol

emerson
05-31-04, 03:49 PM
ha ha no problem, it happens

Matt.B
05-31-04, 03:55 PM
ohhhhhhhhhhhh sorry I thought that you ment grams.
Matt

Ixidor
05-31-04, 07:07 PM
well some people say that a "cool down period" is mandatory, I dont really think you need one though but if you want to just gradually bring the temp down to like 75* farenheight in a period of like a month and then bring them back up, then you can introduce the male, you dont have to do this though, you can usually just introduce the male

Tim and Julie B
05-31-04, 08:37 PM
Calcium at every feeding is very unhealthy. It is best to provide it on food items once or twice a week, or in a dish so that they can choose whether or not they will eat it. Most animals have the ability to know what they require and leos are no exception. They will not comsume more than they need to:D

Anyways, to finally answer the question, yes you can put them together. Watch them for a little while to be sure no one is being bullied and that they are sharing the food instead of fighting over it. Be sure to give them enough hides that they feel secure about sharing a home together. I am sure you'll see some action pretty quick since they are both adults! LOL

Julie

Matt.B
05-31-04, 09:21 PM
Calcium at every feeding is not detramental to the health of a leo. They are able to pass all the extra calcium through there body unlike vitamins and D3.
Matt

emerson
06-01-04, 03:01 PM
Thanks for the replies. Yep, got plenty of hides in the 25 from when there was three girls in it. Should I mix them up a bit to change the "territory" before introducing them though? You know, neutral ground and what not? I used to do that with fish sometimes, just wondering if it's a good idea with leos or not.