Blazing Blizzard has arrived pics

[BigDan]

Well after 2 years and I do not know how many eggs I finally have one.

Tremper Strain blazing blizzard incubated at 80 for female ( that is the only crappy part I do not know what the #%$& I was thinking incubating for female) from DH for Blazing Blizzard parents.

Blazing Blizzard next to blizzard 66% poss het for blazing clutchmate. No black pigment what so ever.

http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/511/1112Blazing_with_Blizz-med.jpg

Blazing Blizzard next to Tremper Strain Patternless albino also incubated at 80.

http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/511/1112Blazing_with_TPatt_alb.jpg

Blazing blizzard next to Tremper Strain patternless albino and patternless 100% het for Tremper albino.

http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/511/1112Blazing_with_Patts.jpg

Blazing Blizzard with all of them from left to right.

Blizzard poss het for blazing, Tremper patternless albino, blazing blizzard, patternless 100% het for Tremper albino.

http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/511/1112Blazing_Blizz_and_freinds-med.jpg

It can be done folks!!!!


Enjoy

Dan

[VooDooMafia]

NIce pics bro

[Matt.B]

OH MY GOD!!!!!! I cant beleive that you actually hatched out a blazzing blizzard!!!! I cant beleive that its a female though, that kinda sucks but at least you can get 10 or twelve babies from it next year. Not as much as a male but still i mean its a Blazzing Blizzard!!! lol
Matt

[PDDM]

Wow...the blazing blizzard looks great but i find the Tremper patternless albino a lil more attractive even though its not as rare

[nicola_boulton]

they look great! congrats on your new babies!

[Ixidor]

first of all those looke really cool, but how do you tell they're blazing bliz? I mean to me they look like they could be banana blizzard? again they look really cool

[Tim and Julie B]

Hmmm, beat me to it. I'm still waiting on a billion eggs and by george at least one better be a blazing! Maybe if I talk nicely to them?:D Guess I'll have to incubate for males, hey Dan? Maybe we could figure out a little somethin' somethin'? Hehehe..... Congrats!!!!!!:D

Julie

[Rebecca]

Ixidor:
Blazing blizzard is when a blizzard (white colored ) has pink/red eyes.

[Matt.B]

Actually a blazzing blizzard is a blizzard with no black pigment.
Matt

[Rebecca]

I thought the blazing refered to the red/pink eyes???

[Matt.B]

Nope it refers to no melinin? I think that its melenin but in more simpler terms no black pigment. Notice how thw reg bliz has a large black spot on it head that goes away with age and the blaz bliz doesnt. thats really the only diff. Other than the price lol, $2500 compared to $60
Matt

[crazyboy]

holy sh*t....that is awesome.. congrats to you. you are a very lucky person:-) i'm still looking for someone that has adult pairs of blizzards and albinos. o yea and i am pretty sure that a blazing blizzard is a blizzard albino with red eyes.

[PDDM]

Wow bigdan sry at first i didnt know the rariety of the blazing blizz so im gonna go out and compliment you instead with a super-congrats:D

[Tim and Julie B]

Matt.B

The blazing blizzard is an all white or greyish animal with pink or red eyes. The regular blizzard has the standard grey eyes. It ( the blazing) is extremely rare to breed. Out of hundreds of eggs you are LUCKY to get one. The albino and blizzard genes are HIGHY incompatible. Melanin has nothing to do with the end result. Rebecca was 100% right in her definition.

Julie

[Matt.B]

Yes I know that blazzing blizzards have red/pink eyes but they have no black pigment that is what the albino genes do to the morph.
Matt

[Tim and Julie B]

Blizzards have no black to begin with. If they did, regular or blazing, they wouldn't even be blizzards. The posted pics of the comparison were of hatchlings, but the hatchling colors mean little to the end result. Besides it's not black in the pic, it's grey. Sorry to get technical, but I call it as I see it.

[quote]Actually a blazzing blizzard is a blizzard with no black pigment.
Matt[quote] this is false

[quote]I thought the blazing refered to the red/pink eyes???
[quote] this is right

Julie

[BigDan]

Here is a comparison of the blazing with a banana blizzard.

http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/511/1112Blazing_Next_to_Banana_Blizz.jpg

You can see that the banana is a very light colored blizzard baby but they still have the dark head due to the underlying melanin. Not as black/grey as most baby blizzards but still quite noticeable, where the blazing has no black/grey at all. On the regular banana blizzard you can also see the grey pigment a bit on the back and even on the tips of their toes.

The blazing actually has ruby colored eyes due to being incubated for female, if I would have incubated it for male at a higher temp that is when you would see the screaming red eyes of the Tremper strain albino.

I have another 50 or 60 eggs incubating from my Double Het for Blazing groups at 87 maybe I will be lucky enough to hatch out a little male. It would definately help in producing more next year. LOL

I guess the whole point of the blazing blizzard is to get a pure white albino gecko. regular blizzards are white but they have the underlying melanin and many turn charcoal grey as adults and are sometimes not very attractive. With a blazing due to the albino gene you have a pure white blizzard all the time.

Next season I plan to try and produce the Rainwater strain blazing blizzard which I feel will be even more attractive than the Tremper strain Blazing. I guess I am a little biased. HeHe

Dan

[Slannesh]

Wow, Amazing little gecko there Dan, i'm jealous!

Ah well give me 4 or 5 years and a ton of luck and i'll have one too. haha.

Are you working on Midnight Blizzards as well? I've heard of people who are working on them or claim to have them, but no pictures of any adults yet.

[Matt.B]

Thankyou for proving me right Dan.
Matt

[leo breeder]

all i can say is a big well done m8
i am also working on this morph no luck yet tho (there not here in england yet!!)
dan can i ask you a few questions please??(i await your reply.)
simmo.

[hobotramp]

Here is the definition of the 'Blazzing Blizzard' from the blizzardlizard.com website...." the "Blazing Blizzard Lizard," a white gecko with blazing red eyes". Check out the page... it details their start with naming the blizzards to what they have been working on. http://www.blizzardlizard.com/index.asp?request=about

[crazyboy]

ok now i am totally confused. can someone tlel me what you breed together to get a blazing blizzard. and also what is a midnight blizzard. thanks

[leo breeder]

crazyboy
you need to first breed 1 albino to 1 blizzard then you get het for both breed the hets together and you stand a 1in10000000000 chance of getting a blazzing blizzard!(some one want to put me right)
a midnight blizzard is a pure black blizzard!(not many of them about yet )
hope this helps.
simmo.

[VooDooMafia]

Yea they are still rare but over time just like all the other leo morphs they will be readly available at a good price.

I can see why these little guys are in demand though, they are one of the best looking leos as adults

[crazyboy]

leo breeder....thanks that is what i tohught but then after reading i got totally lost and had to reassure myslef. how do you get midnight blizzards and does anyone ahve any pictures they sound like a very interesting leo.

[Scales Zoo]

With a double het breeding, should you not get 1 / 16 eggs being blazing blizzard? I realize leos don't lay 16 eggs at a time, but statistically, isn't it a 1/16 chance?

Ryan

[crazyboy]

when you breed the two hets you have some of them coming out as albino/blizzard but that doesn't mean that they are going to have the red eyes.

[leo breeder]

crazyboy.
if you want to see a midnight blizzard go to crestedgecko.com there leos are well cool have fun lol.

[Matt.B]

The reason why you dont get them that easly is because the blizzard and albino genes are extremely incompatible.
Matt

[PDDM]

first of all big dan did you get my e-mail bout if your selling trempers(males)??
secondly wow i found this pic on the blizzard thinggy
http://www.blizzardlizard.com/images/GeckoAlbSm.jpg
Now i know it says image has been altered like 4 times but does an adult look anything like that...if not imagean if theres a morph waiting to be discovered that looks like it?wow..

[Matt.B]

Yep thats what an adult looks like.
Matt

[PDDM]

*Big dan on that i dont know you came accross a lot of eggs you said how many blizzards you got?in my e-mail bout tremper males i forgot to mention id like blizzards too...maybe can you email me with prices...i understand if your not willing to sell adults but anything like hatchlings, juvies would be great(sry if im changing the idea of the thread ill convertback to it now)

Bidan whats in the future for this lil blazer???Whos gonna be his/her mate???

And woah they really look like that???It looks like in the pic the eyes are over exaggerated...i mean wow just pure blood red...hehe looks so evil...again congrats dan...(on making everyone jealous :mad: lol)

[Matt.B]

Dan will put her with a male DH and baby blazers will come out. If your asking the price of a blazzer then your lookin at about $2000-2500 if your talking about a reg blizzard then its about $60-100 depending on the age.
Matt

[PDDM]

yeah i rather get some from a good canadian breeder on this site (at my store sickly blizzards are 119$ cnd) and tim and julie referred me to bigdan(well for a adult male tremper at least i dunno bout if he has any basic blizzards to sell)

[Matt.B]

He sells blizzards pretty much every morph you could think of. I dont think that he sells adults to often but every once in a while he has groups or extra adults for sale. I can tell you he is a great breeder good quality to.
Matt

[PDDM]

lol you have very good refs dan!!!hmm ill probably want a cheap one though im 14 and well i dont have much money :( but its all cool.

[crazyboy]

one last question. does it have to be a tremper albino ro cna it be like a bell albino? thanks

[Matt.B]

For what?
Blazzers? You can do it with any kind of albino but I think that tremper albis are the only ones used right now.
Matt

[crazyboy]

thank you.

[BigDan]

You can use any type of albino to breed to a blizzard and make Double Hets.

There are DH for Blazing Rainwater Strain

and DH for Blazing Bell Strain out there already and it is only a matter of time that the blazing blizzards of each strain are produced.

Tremper Strain Blazing Blizzards were produced first because the intial DH crosses were made using the Tremper strain albino.

Many people said patternless albinos were impossible to produce and now we know theywere wrong as the Rainwater strain is out there in good numbers. The Tremper Strain patternless albino has also been produced by a number of breeders myself, Garrick Demeyer of crested gecko.com and VMS along with a handful of others I beleive.

You can produce many Double recessive mutations in leopard geckos it just takes planning and time. I have a certain formula I use and it seems to work it has allowed me to produce the first Rainwater and Tremper strain patternless albinos in Canada and now the first blazing blizzard.

I would tell you but them I would have to kill you. LOL I actually have mentioned how I do it in previous posts.

PDDM I did not receive an email are sure sure you had the right one. You can reach me at stanno@telus.net.

Also I have produced a few midnights as well and will be breeding a midnight male to a midnight female next season to see what happens.

Here is one I produced last season it is a male and has stayed pretty dark as an adult. It almost looks blue/grey in color.

http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/511/1112midnight_and_banana_blizz_2003-med.jpg

I have also produced some oddball spotted blizzards last season and will be breeding them together to see what happens. Maybe I can increase the amount of spotting all over the body who knows. I have males and females like this.

http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/511/1112Paradox_Banana_Blizzard.jpg

This one hatched out from two banana blizzards last year and looked as if it displayed both the blizzard and patternless traits in one gecko.

http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/511/1112weird_banana_blizz-med.jpg

Enjoy


Dan

[PDDM]

stanno@telus.net????I just sent it now :D