Russell's viper

[ETET]

Haven't post pic a long time, here is a close up of my daboia russelii russelii (Pakistan), she is a big female about 4.5 feet long, hopefully going to have some babies this year. Anyone here keep this interesting species?

http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/510/1278Imgp0397_1.jpg

There is another favorite one, albino deinagkistrodon acutus. He is a male around 4 feet long:

http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/510/1278Imgp0400_1-med.jpg

ETET :)

[psilocybe]

I love the Daboia genus. Very interesting snakes...with some very devastating venom. Your acutus is also very purtty...:)

AP

[viperD]

Wow man nice snakes! I do not keep Daboia currently but would love to someday. Great pics man, post more!

Derek

[atheris]

http://www.herppi.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10965/russeli.JPG

Daboia russeli pulchella Cb´99

[skin78]

I like Daboia very very much.. I saw some at a keepers house a few weeks ago :) they are really awesome snakes.. maybe just maybe some day :P

[Gregg M]

ETET,
I must say you have an awesome collection....... Thanks for posting your pics....... Awesome stuff man....... How are the Bitis doing?????

[Matt]

sweet man....that albino acutus is killer, congrats!

[ETET]

Hey Gregg, my Bitis are doing very well, hopefully I will have some babies a short while from now. How's your gabino project going, I may try to start gabino a few months from now.

Also, Atheris your daboia are really nice, the set up looks great and natural. By the way, what do you think about the genus of daboia? Recently, it believe there are 5 subspecies of daboia russelii:

d. r. russelii (India, Pakistan & Bangladesh)
d. r. pulchella (Sri Lanka)
d. r. siamensis (Burma, Thailand, Cambodia & southern China)
d. r. formosensis (Taiwan) &
d. r. limitis (Java, Komoda, Flores & Lomblen)

From a study from Wolfgang Wuster about the genus of daboia (Hamadryad, Vol.23, No. 1, pp. 33-40, 1998), he took a conservative approach and suggested only 2 recognised subspecies: d. russelii russelii (western form) & d. russelii siamensis (eastern form). I still really confused about this subspecies thing due to vast distribution..... may be someone have some idea??

ETET :)

[atheris]

It doesent matter what species are we talking about, but always the subspecies are difficult. I ask a question why there is such thing as subspecies ? Ok i know its a troll. But taxonomy in some species are just too hard. Some herpetologist want to get over this subspecies issue, and move direct to new species (in general).

I hope you get the point im trying to tell ;)

[ETET]

Thanks atheris, I understand what you mean. Russelli start from vipera to daboia and then to so many subspecies, may be the taxonomy is the thing only herpetologist like to play with. This is one of the thing which is never going to be finish......

ETET

[psilocybe]

Taxonomy will always be changing as newer methods of identifying relationships between species come about...just a while ago, there wasn't any DNA testing, and now DNA testing is used in classifying species, subspecies, etc...what's gonna be fun is when the Colubridae family finally gets analyzed, that family is long overdue for some serious re-evaluation. Nothing is published yet, but I know WW mentioned that the Naja genus could possibly be divided soon, with N. melanoleuca, N. nivea, N. haje, and N. annulifera possibly being regrouped...ahhh, the wonderful world of taxonomy :)

AP

[Maik Dobiey]

Hello,

WW reviewed the Genus Daboia in the early 90s and only recognised Daboia russelii russelii und Daboia russelii siamensis

[GHOSTSNAKE]

it come from china ~~~~~
i sometime can see it in the nature!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!